The beginning of restoring a 1075

[Dashunde 6]

Hi all, first post here.

For the past 12 years I've had my (RIP) Grandpa's WH 1075 hydro.

I was with him in 1976 on the day he bought this tractor used.

Its been the family "darling" for nearly 3 generations, besides his Starcraft boat this tractor was his prized - or at least most cared-for - possession.

Over the recent years the paint has faded quickly despite being garaged, but cosmetics are my secondary concern.

 

Its been my trusty plow tractor for a decade or so, the mower deck rotted/discarded long ago (I have a Gravely WB for mowing) it has amazing torque for pushing big piles of snow but the hydro is getting a bit tired and requires much more throttling nowadays, especially reverse.

 

I need advice for correcting the following:

 

- 10 hp Kohler runs great, always starts, but the governor quit, it'll rev to the moon if allowed.

Carb float sticks occasionally, leaks a little fuel (even has dings on the bowl from Gramps tapping it).

And I might rebuild it from the bottom up if you all can point me in the right direction of a reliable parts/gasket kit and manual.

 

- The hydro drive is getting a little weak, what are my rebuild options?

Would prefer a knowledgeable local St Louis shop, anyone know of a good option?

 

- Once the mechanicals are up to snuff I'll move onto a partial (not full tear-down) sandblast and refinish.

Anything I need to be aware of here?  Seems simple enough.. blast and basic refinish with single-stage red..

 

Anyway.. this is where I start.

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Rob

 

Ps.. I'm good with my hands, have tons of quality tools and a space to work, so other than diving into the hydro transaxle I'm good to go.

 

[pfrederi 18,024]

Welcome to Red Square!!!

 

I will let others talk about cosmetic restoration.  I only paint for corrosion control.

 

As to the hydro unit do not be afraid of it.  I assume you have change the fluid and the filter.  After that there are some things you can do to try to improve perfomance.  Check out this manual.  It has a diagnostic chart and and "Tune up" Procedures.

 

Click on the fuzzy part and you can download it.

 

  For you r governor problem look at this manula

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2019 by pfrederi

[roadapples 6,983]

and carb clean and rebuild is pretty straight forward. Genuine Kohler kits on eBay about 12 bucks..

 

[Dashunde 6]

Holy cow.. 1 hour and you guys have given me more info than I can digest in a week

Thanks very much!

 

Are there any pitfalls ahead?  Ie.. something like "nevermind the manual, DO NOT do this or that because those parts are no longer available"?

Its not perfect now, but it runs/works.. so I dont want to dig myself a hole and create a 500lb paperweight out of something that did, kinda, work well..

 

[pfrederi 18,024]

Kohler parts both OEM and knockoffs are widely available

 

Hydro  parts for the tune up portion can be had used.from places like A-Z tractor (look in our vendors section) O rings and seals are cross-referenced  in a pinned post on the transmission forum The hydro was built by Sundstrand.  If new fluid/filter and tune up don't resolve the hydro issues there are some other options but lets cross that bridge if we get to it.

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,036]

I love restoration threads so I'm definitely following along with this. These tractors are very straight forward and are pretty simple minus the hydro transmission. I'm not an expert at those. A carb rebuild may fix your issues with the governor, other wise you will have to take your oil pan off and see if there are any governor pieces laying on the bottom.

 

Good luck with the restoration, I think you'll enjoy it!

[ACman 7,628]

My  fix and clean what needs it . The rest of the tractor looks to original for me and I’d keep it original (only original once) . Paint up the rims, get a seat cover from @BOB ELLISON and do a wet sand and buff on your sheet metal. You’ll be surprised how well that paint will shine up . Maybe @AMC RULES and @stevebo will chime in with some help with the paint restoration and some  of tractors they brought back without painting . 

 

https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/classifieds/for-sale/seats-for-lawn-ranger-and-655606656855-856875105510751056-r4583/

 

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

Welcome to Redsqure. 

Welcome to the Hurd. 

The 1075 Is a great little tractor and strong as a bear. Every part can be found eather from after market or putting a add here in the wanted section.

[oliver2-44 9,931]

Welcome

thats a good looking 52 year old tractor and great to here it has been kept in the family. There are some sundstrand transmission experts here. I’m not one, but one thing I picked up on is it’s helpful to have tractor running to do transmission diagnostics. So you might tackle the carb to see if you can get it running a little better (while you read up on transmissions).  Type “Sundstrand” in the search box and go through the transmission section here for others past repairs. @daveoman1966 is one of our resident hydro guru’s so look for some good info in reply’s to others by him.  One area to take a close took at is the transmission mountain plate since it has seen many years of plow duty the tranny mount is a weaker area of these horses and can develop cracks. This is not a deal breaker, and there are many good threads on repairing this  As others have said a good fine wet San and buff  can bring a lot of paint back. If you want a little more metal protection for a worker, a couple of coats of clear coat is my personal preference. Redo your Horse in the Vendors section has great replacement decals. 

Of course I also did a full bladt and paint on my sons 312-8 and currently on some suburban. The important think is keep it in the family and make the restoration your own. 

PS. Any pictures with your grandpa or you as a youth with the tractor would be great to see

Edited January 26, 2019 by oliver2-44

[953 nut 56,262]

17 hours ago, Dashunde said:

hydro is getting a bit tired and requires much more throttling nowadays, especially reverse.

I too would love to see some early photos of this family treasure, love to hear of third generation owners,

As Paul said, begin bu changing the transmission fluid, if the color is Pink/red it is ATF, if it is amber it was changed to 10 W 30, stick with what you find. Your transmission filter would be a NAPA 1410. If the problem persists it may be your Acceleration Valves and their springs. The valve for reverse is at the front on the left side. You will see the valves and springs in the manual. Keep on posting and we will help all we can.

[Retired Wrencher 5,543]

Das-   You do not have to repaint if you like. A good cleaning and try buffing out the paint. Or I am lazy I use Marvel on the finish when I had a W/H. It brings out the color what is there. Just rub in let it set for a day rub off. An easy way to get some color back. Enjoy the project.

[ACman 7,628]

Finally found what I was looking for . Looks better in person .

 

 

 

[Dashunde 6]

When I said I was "in the beginning of restoring" I meant it lol.. life/wife/kid have all conspired to ruinate my fun.

Plus there hasn't been much snow in the past couple of years, until last week, which prompted me to fire up the ol tractor and plow the drive, which in turn prompted me to finally order some parts for it:

Governor shaft - mine spins all the way around, I can only assume the flag/tab part is broken off.

Governor gear - might as well while I'm in there

New carb from isavetractors - it still runs good once started, but float sticks/floods after its been sitting a year or so, plus the throttle shaft rattles around a little.

New complete gasket kit - self explanitory.

 

So.. here goes, wish me luck 

[ebinmaine 69,066]

1 hour ago, Dashunde said:

When I said I was "in the beginning of restoring" I meant it lol.. life/wife/kid have all conspired to ruinate my fun.

Plus there hasn't been much snow in the past couple of years, until last week, which prompted me to fire up the ol tractor and plow the drive, which in turn prompted me to finally order some parts for it:

Governor shaft - mine spins all the way around, I can only assume the flag/tab part is broken off.

Governor gear - might as well while I'm in there

New carb from isavetractors - it still runs good once started, but float sticks/floods after its been sitting a year or so, plus the throttle shaft rattles around a little.

New complete gasket kit - self explanitory.

 

So.. here goes, wish me luck 

 

 

On that carb you're likely better off to clean/rebuild the OE carb than replace. 

Can you post a video of just how loose the shaft is? That may be repairable.