minotaur57 7 #1 Posted December 31, 2018 To engage the clutch, I have to give it a little toe up. Well lubricated. What should I do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,337 #2 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, minotaur57 said: To engage the clutch, I have to give it a little toe up. Well lubricated. What should I do? Sounds like a spring issue check where the rod connects to see if spring is there. Edited December 31, 2018 by The Tool Crib Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,096 #3 Posted December 31, 2018 What is the model number and serial number of the tractor? They used different designs for the pedal return and the numbers will show us what you have. Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,232 #4 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) They had 4 different systems. Spring only, spring with a hydraulic damper, strut only and spring with little damper that only came into play at the end of the idler arm travel. I'm betting the last one is what you have but, like Garry said, we need the specifics on your tractor. In any case I'd remove any gizmos and just use a spring. Most likely problem solved. Edited December 31, 2018 by Racinbob 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minotaur57 7 #5 Posted January 1, 2019 Tractor is a C120 (314). Thanks for the help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minotaur57 7 #6 Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 7:21 AM, The Tool Crib said: Sounds like a spring issue check where the rod connects to see if spring is there. Could this be the spring we are talking about? 314-8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,337 #7 Posted January 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, minotaur57 said: Could this be the spring we are talking about? 314-8 Not sure on that one . The one I'm thinking of is on the left side back by the brake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,726 #8 Posted January 1, 2019 I agree with tool crib , on that spring location , little detail I added to that was to lubricate the tight fitting drag points, lets it work as it should, pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,096 #9 Posted January 1, 2019 Number 48 is the spring for the pedal return. It hooks into arm #18. https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro/mowers-lawn-garden-tractor/21-14k801-314-8-toro-314-8-garden-tractor-1985/clutch-brake-and-speed-control-linkage/ The other end of the spring hooks into a web or brace above the left axle housing - all part of the transmission casting. This is not necessarily your tractor model. The tractor data decal should be under the left side of the seat on the rear fender pan. If it is not there post all the numbers off the engine decal including the serial number. The C-120 is a 1974-1977 model. The 314-8 is a 1985, 1993-2001 model. Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minotaur57 7 #10 Posted January 2, 2019 13 hours ago, peter lena said: I agree with tool crib , on that spring location , little detail I added to that was to lubricate the tight fitting drag points, lets it work as it should, pete Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minotaur57 7 #11 Posted January 2, 2019 13 hours ago, gwest_ca said: Number 48 is the spring for the pedal return. It hooks into arm #18. https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro/mowers-lawn-garden-tractor/21-14k801-314-8-toro-314-8-garden-tractor-1985/clutch-brake-and-speed-control-linkage/ The other end of the spring hooks into a web or brace above the left axle housing - all part of the transmission casting. This is not necessarily your tractor model. The tractor data decal should be under the left side of the seat on the rear fender pan. If it is not there post all the numbers off the engine decal including the serial number. The C-120 is a 1974-1977 model. The 314-8 is a 1985, 1993-2001 model. Garry Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites