2019 F250 Platinum

[ClassicTractorProfessor 5,366]

Been looking for a truck for a while now. By no means looking for a new one, as I can't afford one nor do I want one with all the electronic garbage on it. I wish a guy could still buy a work truck, you know am/fm only radio, manual locks/windows, vinyl seats, rubber mats. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I buy a truck to WORK. If I wanted to look stylish I'd buy a Mustang LOL. Anyway I log onto AutoTrader and did a quick search for Ford F250 in my area, this was the first truck to pop up...WOW...96k to drive off in this thing, and check out that MSRP of over 100k. I can think of a lot of better ways I could come up with to spend 100k than on a new truck

[Razorback 1,069]

I agree whole-heartedly! That’s why we have a 1981 Bronco and a 1995 F250 PowerStroke!

[ClassicTractorProfessor 5,366]

4 minutes ago, Razorback said:

I agree whole-heartedly! That’s why we have a 1981 Bronco and a 1995 F250 PowerStroke!

Now that is two trucks I would love to have. I'm actually looking for a 99-02 F250 or F350 ext cab or crew cab 4x4 with the 7.3 and either a 5 or 6 speed. The company truck I'm driving right now is for sale for $5,000. Banker said he'd loan me 4k on it but I'm just not convinced that I like the Triton V10 well enough to own one. My other old truck is a 79 K20 with who knows how many miles on it, still a good old truck just too wore out for long trips

[Razorback 1,069]

We could buy just about anything we would like, but we decided years ago to quit spending so much on vehicles. It was a good decision for us, and I can work on them!

Edited December 26, 2018 by Razorback

[Razorback 1,069]

I don’t have any personal experience with the V10, but have always heard they are good engines and good pullers. Be ready to feed it the gasoline.... but for what you’d save over a new vehicle, you can pour a LOT of gasoline through it.

Edited December 26, 2018 by Razorback

[ClassicTractorProfessor 5,366]

27 minutes ago, Razorback said:

 good engines and good pullers. Be ready to feed it the gasoline

I know a couple guys who really love them, and have had good luck with them. This one seems to be a good running old truck, its got 296k on it and runs/drives like a champ. However I haven't been impressed with the pulling capability of it or any of the others I have driven. I just sold an 89 F250 with the 460 in it that would pull circles around a V10, and get 2-3 more mpg while doing it. That's another thing I don't like about newer trucks, you cannot get a 3/4 ton or 1 ton with a big block gas V8 anymore. I'm a die hard Ford guy and wont own anything but an F250 or F350 (don't ask on the story of the K20 ). I really like the comforts and looks of the Super Duty, but cant make up my mind to get one because of the lack of a big block. I don't pull enough anymore to really warrant the diesel, but the only gas options are the V10 or the 5.4 (which in my opinion is a gutless dog). So that leaves it narrowed down to a pre 97 with a 460 or spend the extra for a 99-02 diesel. And then comes the long road trip associated with buying one, I don't understand with this being farm country as well as oilfield country you would think the used car dealers around here would keep a few 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, but they don't. I looked at 57 used trucks on 5 different local car lots last weekend...56 half tons and one 2002 Chevy 2500HD with the Duramax (had it been an 8.1 I might have considered it)

 

I've always hated shopping for a vehicle, almost pull my hair out before its all done

[JAinVA 4,629]

I have to say I am a Ford guy.I started in 69 with a 66 f100.That little truck survived a green 16 year old wise guy.Tough as anything.If you have ever seen MR Majestic,I can attest that the old twin I beam would survive the stunts portrayed and then some.In the 80's momma always had new family cars and I had an assortment of 78s.One was bought new but the rest were ones I dragged home.No personal property tax to speak of and while I drove one to work another was getting readied to take the duty.The 08 super duty 1 ton diesel was a beast.I bought it to tow and it did that job well but as an every day vehicle it was a bear to park.That truck will be my last diesel.The 2016 F250 now in the yard is another beast compared to the late 70 250s.The truck will tow 10,000 pounds and will carry close to 3600 lbs.It will turn in sub 16 second quarter mile times and rides like a lumber wagon.I still miss the 78s and plan to get them back up and running.I work my trucks.Thats what they were built for.

Edited December 26, 2018 by JAinVA

[Daddy Don 907]

Just buy it. It will only hurt your pocket book for a few years.  Just kidding it is hard to put the money these days for the amount they want for cars and trucks these days. Also remember our great state of Oklahoma put a tax on motor vehicles now. Good luck on your search for another truck. Hope you had a Merry Christmas and a Happy new year.      

[Achto 28,777]

14 hours ago, Professor1990 said:

 

 

They would have to deduct at least 10k for the wheels & lift kit before I would even consider buying this truck.  

[82Caddy 851]

Had a similar conversation with my wife about trucks the other day. We have a 00 f350 cclb with a 7.3 also known as the dinosaur. She was commmeting how loud and slow it it so I told her to go price out a newer similarly optioned truck. Somehow she’s just fine with the dinosaur being used as the tow rig it was built to be. Might not be the prettiest, fastest or the best but it does it’s job. 

[pfrederi 18,333]

Some times you can't win even going basic.  In 95 i bought a new GMC Sonoma. Had to wait a bit as i wanted a stick shift and no power windows.  Kept it 20 years but... Window crank handles broke...twice.  Throw out bearing failed a 7000, Clutch at 23000.  Had to have the tranny replaced at about 100k with a Jasper rebuild then that failed and had to be replaced (warranted)  I see now it is almost impossible to get a stick in a new pick up truck...Maybe just as well as Detroit seems to have forgotten how to build them. Honda Civic went 150000 with no clutch tranny issues...

[Razorback 1,069]

1 hour ago, Achto said:

 

 

They would have to deduct at least 10k for the wheels & lift kit before I would even consider buying this truck.  

One thing I LOVE about our 1995 F250: 16” steel wheels and “normal” sized tires that don’t require a loan from the bank to replace.

Edited December 26, 2018 by Razorback

[wh500special 2,249]

Regarding the V10...We have a pair of older Econoline E350’s at work.  One is the 7.3 Powerstroke, the other is the 6.8 V10.  

 

The V10 is right at 500k miles.   The diesel is a hair over.   Practically all interstate highway miles.  

 

The V10 has required far less maintenance and expense over its lifetime than the diesel.  It’s not my responsibility to track it, but the guy who does says the gasser has been way cheaper to own over the years...

 

Both get similar mpg, up to 18mpg on the interstate depending who drives and how fast.  I took the diesel on an 800 mile loop once for a demo setup at Little Rock AFB and was able to squeeze almost 20 mpg out of it but I kept to the speed limit. 

 

We all prefer to drive the diesel since it “feels” more powerful (maybe because it is so loud) but in an informal drag race 😎  the v10 outgunned it. 

 

Evidently the Diesel engine is a lot heavier (duh).  That van has required more front end work over the years.   Ball joints, shocks, etc. 

 

anyway, my point is for that vintage of truck I would favor the v10.  It will be cheaper to buy, feed, and own and performs similarly.  

 

Steve

 

 

Edited December 26, 2018 by wh500special

[cschannuth 3,817]

 We had a 2002 excursion with a V 10 and 4.30 gears. That thing was really peppy and also did great on gas mileage. Mostly because you barely had to touch the throttle to cruise down the interstate at 70 mph. Unfortunately we had to sell it and our camper when I started my own business. We really miss that vehicle. 

[Razorback 1,069]

Good info about the V10.....

[953 nut 57,904]

Are you kidding me?     I have bought and sold a few houses in this century for less that the MSRP on that truck!

I am on my third Dodge Dakota (2009) and have gotten over 200K out of the previous ones. With the price of new trucks today I doubt I will be needing another new one in this lifetime. Since I retired I only drive my truck about 6K per year anyway.

[WHX?? 50,729]

Yah I gotta agree with the others Prof....you need to pull your head out yer keester for even looking at that POS for a work truck. That's a truck some youngster built up to impress his buddies and try and score with the chicks..then figured out he couldn't afford it being only a soda jerk. 

 I just got a new Chevrolet in what they claim to be a WT. POS as well and paid well above  40k for it. If Ida had the time I woulda looked for a late 70's early 80's rust bucket and put 30K in it. Woulda ended up with a better WT. 

Edited December 27, 2018 by WHX21

[ClassicTractorProfessor 5,366]

I can promise you I wasn't looking at it, it just happened to be the first one that popped up when I put in Ford F250 and my zip code lol. @wh500special come to Oklahoma and show me the secret to getting that kind of MPG out of a V10, I put almost 150 miles a day on this one (all highway miles) and the best I have ever seen out of it was 7.6 mpg. And that's driving with the cruise set between 55-60, get it up to 65-70 and best I've ever gotten was 5.9. My 460 would get 9-10 pulling a trailer, and roughly 12 empty, seemed to pull better too. Maybe I just haven't found the right one yet, but I've driven several V10s and wasn't impressed with any of them.

 

[WHX?? 50,729]

17 minutes ago, Professor1990 said:

I can promise you I wasn't looking at it, it just happened to be the first one that popped up

Lol ...yah we say that to our wives all the time! 

[wh500special 2,249]

No idea what the secret might be.  We just put gas in it and drive it until either something breaks or the maintenace schedule calls for a doctor’s appointment. 

 

I dont know much more than I offered, but I’ve been under the impression that the v10 was a pretty large improvement over the 460 in both power and economy. 

 

The v10 was part of Ford’s modular OHC engine family where many engines shared parts and fundamentally just differed in cylinder counts.   They were pretty solid designs and - with some quirks - were generally big improvements over their OHV forebears.  

 

Improvement or not, the 460 had to go for environmental issues.  Big bore gas engines suffer from poor emissions since it takes a while for the flame to propagate from the spark plug to the edges of the cylinder.  And the relatively cold cylinder walls tend to quench the process as well.  So aside from GM’s 8.1L most big pistons have disappeared.  

 

I think the introduction of direct injection makes it possible to lean out the process a bit so I think Ford is supposed to introduce a new 7.3L big gas engine soon. 

 

We never found the van to be a dog, but i suppose it could just be the specific vehicle configuration differences showing differences.  

 

I haven’t followed the heavy duty pickups very closely over the last 10-15 years.   I do know they all got incredibly big, powerful, and heavy though.  

 

Last year I moved away from a full sized truck into a much smaller one since my needs changed.   I always preferred Fords over the other guys though. 

 

Steve

[Razorback 1,069]

I think that Iwould buy the V10 for $5000..... offer something lower first, though..... like $2500. 

[ClassicTractorProfessor 5,366]

27 minutes ago, Razorback said:

I think that Iwould buy the V10 for $5000..... offer something lower first, though..... like $2500. 

I offered 3500 and they wouldn't take it...so went to 4k and they still wouldn't...only reason its for sale is to finance a new tire machine for the shop, which we desparately need. Boss picked out the machine he wants and its gonna set us back about 5k, so that's the price he picked and he is stuck on that LOL. Oh well I'll just keep driving it and let them pay the tags/insurance on it. Still would like to find myself a truck though, I already told them I was keeping the Ford to drive back and forth to work until it sells after I find something, but sometimes a guy just wants to go someplace that its not advisable to take the company rig. Our local bar cooks the best steaks in all of NW Oklahoma, my mouth has been watering for one of Dave's ribeyes for a while, but something tells me its just not a good idea for the local tow truck driver to be parked at the bar with Shattuck Tire & Tow plastered on the side of his truck 

 

I did find this 2000 Chevy  3/4 ton in Oklahoma City for $3990. As much as I hate to buy another Chevy I might go look at it this weekend. Its pretty much got everything that I look for in a truck, the bare bones necessities. Does have the 5 speed, which is a major selling point on a truck for me. Only thing I would prefer would be the 8.1 over the 6.0, but I guess you cant have everything lol

[WVHillbilly520H 10,376]

7 minutes ago, Professor1990 said:

 

I did find this 2000 Chevy  3/4 ton in Oklahoma City for $3990. As much as I hate to buy another Chevy I might go look at it this weekend. Its pretty much got everything that I look for in a truck, the bare bones necessities. Does have the 5 speed, which is a major selling point on a truck for me. Only thing I would prefer would be the 8.1 over the 6.0, but I guess you cant have everything lol

My last truck was a 2000 1500 4.8 5spd, no major issues all the I had it up to 250k miles still going 4 years after I sold it, the biggest issue with the 6.0 is exhaust manifold bolts rotting off, then the 8.1 is kinda a unicorn so replacement/service parts won't be cheap or as easy to get as the 6.0 and with the 2500 you're actually getting the better trans NV4500 iron case vs the NV3500 aluminum version in the 1500s as well as the bigger rear axle, I don't think you would go too wrong with the Bowtie just my opinion.

[ClassicTractorProfessor 5,366]

My biggest problem or concern with the Chevy is the front suspensions, I travel a lot of back roads (although most of them are smoother than Oklahoma highways) and from what I see they don't seem to hold up as well around here as the Fords and Dodges. I do 90% of our mechanic work at the shop, and out of all the front suspension work we get I would guess that 85-90% of it is Chevy/GMC pickups. On average I do 2-3 complete front end rebuilds on them every week. The new ones seem to be even worse than the older ones. The company who owns our business is an oilfield trucking and roustabout company, within the last 6 months they purchased 30 new Chevy pickups, 27 of those have already had front end problems and been through our shop for new front tires and alignments within the first 20k miles. Dad just recently traded his 07 2500 Classic with the Duramax in on a 2018 1500, he's got right at 17k on it (all highway with the exception of the 1/2 mile of dirt road from their house to the blacktop) and has already had it in the shop for an alignment and new tires. Seems that quality control at GM here recently has completely went to crap. 

 

Like I said we see more of the newer models, but is it because they are plagued with problems more so than the older ones? Or is it because the biggest percentage of the older models around here are farm trucks that spend the biggest part of their time in the pasture and the farmers just don't care that they're wore out?

[WVHillbilly520H 10,376]

Around here it seems like nobody knew what a grease gun was for on the tie rods ,ball joints, and idler arms, my '14 from what I seen under there has no zerks now has 46-47k miles no uneven tire wear as of yet, could it be 2wd vs 4wd? even though the suspension is basically the same...and when Dodge first went to the newer grill with hood when opened body style the 4wd front suspension was notorious around here for breaking and literally falling out of the the frames , again just my experiences.

Edited December 27, 2018 by WVHillbilly520H