What was a K582 used in?

[ebinmaine 69,967]

I found the ID tag on the old generator I picked up a few months ago at the auction.

Can't read most of it but it says K582 on it.

Cast iron 2 cylinder.

I see it was listed as 23 horsepower most places online.

 

Is this from a Wheelhorse?

Just curious.....

 

 

 

Seems like it would be a fun engine in a logging tractor.

 

[Achto 28,333]

50 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Is this from a Wheelhorse?

 

If this engine is for a generator, I'm going to say no it's not for any tractor. Generator engines will have a tapered PTO end on the crank shaft instead of a keyed shaft. This is not to say that you couldn't purchase a taper shaft  to keyed shaft adaptor & use the engine in a tractor. The adaptors can be found on ebay in 1" or 1 1/8" for around $60.  

[ebinmaine 69,967]

44 minutes ago, Achto said:

 

If this engine is for a generator, I'm going to say no it's not for any tractor. Generator engines will have a tapered PTO end on the crank shaft instead of a keyed shaft. This is not to say that you couldn't purchase a taper shaft  to keyed shaft adaptor & use the engine in a tractor. The adaptors can be found on ebay in 1" or 1 1/8" for around $60.  

I forgot to mention that this was a shop made generator.

 

 

Here's the original post about it.

 

 

[Achto 28,333]

Got it.

  I don't believe that   used a 23hp Kohler though. 

[ebinmaine 69,967]

I couldn't find a listing for one but I am not by a long shot and expert on Wheelhorse or searching...

 

 

[pfrederi 18,223]

Never in a WH  but they were very popular industrial engines widely used in many things including early skid steers...

[Elkskin's mower junkyard 1,117]

Would make a wicked repower lol

[ebinmaine 69,967]

That was what I was thinking too.

To be honest, I bought this just for the trailer and was going to give away the generator portion for either scrap or repair.

I have no idea if the engine runs or not but it does turn over.

The unit was buried in the back of a lean-to shed that was right full of scrap metal and other crap.

What I am hoping is that the generator is the part that was not working and that the engine could be saved.

Just imagine 23 horsepower and all the weight of a cast-iron engine? That would be one heck of a firewood removal device.

[pfrederi 18,223]

Just now, ebinmaine said:

That was what I was thinking too.

To be honest, I bought this just for the trailer and was going to give away the generator portion for either scrap or repair.

I have no idea if the engine runs or not but it does turn over.

The unit was buried in the back of a lean-to shed that was right full of scrap metal and other crap.

What I am hoping is that the generator is the part that was not working and that the engine could be saved.

Just imagine 23 horsepower and all the weight of a cast-iron engine? That would be one heck of a firewood removal device.

You better look in to power steering

[ebinmaine 69,967]

Just now, pfrederi said:

You better look in to power steering

Quite true.

That would certainly be a bit of a brute to move around wouldn't it?

 

Although I guess it probably wouldn't be much worse than the loaded tires on the front of my plow tractor....

There's 110 pounds of fluid weight alone pushing down on the ground.

[oliver2-44 10,139]

Those engines were used on small irrigation pumps for orchards. They also were used on many larger hydraulic power units such as those on semi trailers with large hydraulic ramps.

[Sarge 3,464]

Years ago, Ditch Witch commonly used that engine on their small cable plowing machines - talk about a beast! All-wheel, 2-range hydraulic drive and they could drag a 36" deep blade through the ground with the vibratory system like a knife, I buried a lot of miles of cable with one of those. We mainly used custom, smaller and thinner blades to plow in drop lines from the house to the mains for both phone and the cable tv systems. One particular plow I dragged all over Illinois, Iowa and Indiana had the bigger K662 engine on it and we kept that one half hidden from the other crews, they all wanted to steal that monster due to the extra power, which it had in spades. I'd give anything to find one of those engines in good shape, they are quite rare now but sure a torque monster.

 

Got any pics of that generator head? I may be interested in it - they are usually repairable if the tags on it. 

Sarge

[JoeM 7,889]

EB it looks rough on the outside, might be okay with a little tinkering. Looks well done and all the parts are there. Remove the spark plugs oil the cylinders, take the coupler apart. Maybe tinker a bit. loosen linkage etc. and give r a spin!

[ebinmaine 69,967]

4 minutes ago, OILUJ52 said:

EB it looks rough on the outside, might be okay with a little tinkering. Looks well done and all the parts are there. Remove the spark plugs oil the cylinders, take the coupler apart. Maybe tinker a bit. loosen linkage etc. and give r a spin!

Hahahaha.... Rough.

 

Yeah you maybe being too kind on that one. But it does turn if you grab the coupler.

no idea what the real story is but that can't possibly be a bad sign.

Probably be a month or two before I get around to doing this but I just got curious looking at it the other day. And then I couldn't find a listing for that engine anywhere on the site.

[520HC 208]

This engine was used in Wheel Horse  D-Series

[ebinmaine 69,967]

1 minute ago, 520HC said:

This engine was used in Wheel Horse  D-Series

that's what I was thinking at first but I couldn't find a listing for the 582.

there was a D180 which was an 18 horse and a d 200 which was a 20 horse and a d250 which was a 25 horse. The 25 horse, I thought, was not a Kohler twin.

 

I don't have the ID tag to go off of but I think this engine should be a 23 horse.

[953 nut 56,985]

Eric, This was probably an industrial application engine used on a stationary pump, band saw etc.. There are a few spec. numbers that could be helpful if you need parts. They are 36202, 36224, 36231,36234, 36240, 36233, 36234 and 36235. A lot of the spec number changed are due to different crank shaft sizes or output configuration such as tapered shaft, gear reduction or an attached clutch. A couple relate to fuel type, gas or LP.

See if you can make out any of the last three spec numbers on the tag.

The fact that it wasn't ever on a  is no reason that it couldn't lang there in the future!       

[ebinmaine 69,967]

7 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

Eric, This was probably an industrial application engine used on a stationary pump, band saw etc.. There are a few spec. numbers that could be helpful if you need parts. They are 36202, 36224, 36231,36234, 36240, 36233, 36234 and 36235. A lot of the spec number changed are due to different crank shaft sizes or output configuration such as tapered shaft, gear reduction or an attached clutch. A couple relate to fuel type, gas or LP.

See if you can make out any of the last three spec numbers on the tag.

The fact that it wasn't ever on a  is no reason that it couldn't lang there in the future!       

Super cool Richard. Thank you. I'll see if I can get a visual on that in the next couple days.

The fact that it was never in a Wheelhorse isn't bothering me one little teeny tiny bit.

 

[Mows4three 826]

Howdy there Eric,

 

That generator might still be good.  You can only tell by testing it.  

 

My suggestion.....   Lick your fingers, apply to the contacts and have Trina give it a good spin.   When you come back down off the ceiling you can get good money for a working generator.   Oh, and take pictures, too.   I wouldn't miss that circus for the world!  

 

Wink, wink!   LOL...!

 

Cheers!

 

Dave

[roadapples 6,983]

4 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

there was a D180 which was an 18 horse and a d 200 which was a 20 horse and a d250 which was a 25 horse. The 25 horse, I thought, was not a Kohler twin.

 

The d250 had a Renault engine rated at, I think, 19.5hp

 

[Rfp55 33]

Bolens HT23 used straight crank k582's. Many other tractors used smaller version; K532, like Simplicity sunstars and jd400 listed as 19.9 hp.

[ebinmaine 69,967]

Here's a pic of the tag from that engine

 

 

 

 

[pfrederi 18,223]

36202 comes back as basic engine..not specifically built to anyone's specs.