My back up snow rig

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,318]

  Snow plowing and the harsh weather can take its toll on our (my) machines...so I always have a second plow tractor ready and waiting in the shed. 

  Ive sold off quite a bit of my stock and only have two machines that I would want to work hard and plow with. So my C-105 gets the job of second fiddle. 

  Two ply turfs in the rear with 50# weights on the outside and steel pipe flanges that weigh in around 18# on the inside of the rim. With 65-68 pounds I can avoid chains. 

  Pics of course....

 

  

[ebinmaine 67,515]

7 hours ago, Sparky said:

steel pipe flanges

Can you elaborate on that?

 

I use fluid and weights and chains and could actually use more here on the mountain.

[SylvanLakeWH 25,563]

Nice C-105!

 

Mine is ready as well!

 

 

[Retired Wrencher 5,459]

That will work Mike. Always good to have a back up plane. I have three snow blowers. I like walking.

[Retired Wrencher 5,459]

On 11/20/2018 at 8:46 PM, Sparky said:

  Snow plowing and the harsh weather can take its toll on our (my) machines...so I always have a second plow tractor ready and waiting in the shed. 

  Ive sold off quite a bit of my stock and only have two machines that I would want to work hard and plow with. So my C-105 gets the job of second fiddle. 

  Two ply turfs in the rear with 50# weights on the outside and steel pipe flanges that weigh in around 18# on the inside of the rim. With 65-68 pounds I can avoid chains. 

  Pics of course....

 

  

Those tiers must of been fun to put on Mike. Ohh my back!

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,318]

11 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said:

Those tiers must of been fun to put on Mike. Ohh my back!

Yeah… not fun. I fiddle with the floor Jack till the rear hub is right at the correct height to shimmy the wheel on. 

[Wild Bill 633 846]

13 hours ago, Sparky said:

Yeah… not fun. I fiddle with the floor Jack till the rear hub is right at the correct height to shimmy the w

Try replacing the lug bolts with grade 8 full thread bolts with red loctite and lugnuts. Just like a car/truck.

[cleat 5,999]

All of my machines are set up this way.

Makes wheel mounting so much easier.

I use blue loctite so I can get the bolts out if required and have never had one move.

 

 

I bought a bunch of open ended chrome lug nuts because I like the look.

 

 

No extra thread out past the nut so I will be disqualified from the drag race track but for mowing grass it's perfect.

 

[peter lena 8,629]

@Sparky   https://www.google.com/search?q=blank+steel+flanges&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS866US866&oq=blank+steel+flange&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIICAIQABgWGB4yCAgDEAAYFhgeMg0IBBAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0IBRAAGIYDGIAEGIoF0gEJMTEyMDdqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8,  still have blank flanges , used to close off a line . todays metal prices , have made these UNABTAINABLE . DEAD WEIGHT , Pete

[cleat 5,999]

When I worked at the chemical plant I threw these out by the dozen.

Most were stainless steel.

Never thought to bring them home.

 

Oh well, live and learn.

[ebinmaine 67,515]

5 hours ago, Wild Bill 633 said:

red loctite

 

4 hours ago, cleat said:

blue loctite

 

We started doing the same thing here as far as the fully threaded bolts but I've never put Loctite on any of mine.

 

I figure if the bolt backs out or breaks off I already have worse problems.

 

4 hours ago, cleat said:

stainless steel

 

I've tried using stainless and had very poor luck. Usually we use grade 5 but I've also done grade 8. Fine either way. I found stainless galled up too easily.

 

 

4 hours ago, cleat said:

No extra thread out past the nut so I will be disqualified from the drag race track

 

You guys have a lot of 7 mph+/- drag racing out there?

😀

[cleat 5,999]

I mean the flanges were stainless steel.

Wheel bolts are all grade 5 or 8

 

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,318]

8 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

I've tried using stainless and had very poor luck. Usually we use grade 5 but I've also done grade 8. Fine either way. I found stainless galled up too easily.

😀

Umm…what? 
Galled???? 

[cleat 5,999]

Well this has gone somewhat off topic.

The stainless steel remark originally was for blind pipe flanges used as weight.

 

However, stainless bolts can roll up bits of metal into the nuts or threaded holes essentially welding them in place.

This is the galling.

 

Lubricant such as never seize or even oil or grease can reduce or stop this from happening.

 

[8ntruck 7,006]

@ebinmaine - if a bolt backs oit or breaks, your problems are probably insufficient torque, broken hub, or broken wheel, or possibly either the mounting surface of the wheel or hub not being flat.

[ebinmaine 67,515]

6 hours ago, cleat said:

Well this has gone somewhat off topic.

The stainless steel remark originally was for blind pipe flanges used as weight.

 

However, stainless bolts can roll up bits of metal into the nuts or threaded holes essentially welding them in place.

This is the galling.

 

Lubricant such as never seize or even oil or grease can reduce or stop this from happening.

 

 

Off topic?

Us?

🙂

 

Excellent description there Cleat. Thank you.  

 

I'll have to remember that grease next time I see stainless bolts.  

 

 

[midpack 866]

I've had trouble with stainless bolts loosening. I used some on headers on my Mustang. They were constantly coming loose. Swapped them for "header bolts" years ago. Never came loose again. I've seen it with other applications, but that was the most annoying 😑 

[cleat 5,999]

That is why I like to use stainless fasteners for things like dash screws rear fender etc. that are not under real stress.

Things like the brake drum, engine mounts etc. I use grade 5 or possibly 8.

 

When I worked at the chemical plant we had a lot of stainless piping but the majority of the bolting was B7 (similar to grade 8) studs and nuts because stainless steel was not strong enough.

 

[Wheelhorse#1 1,665]

Ive been wanting to do this to my machines.What size bolts are you guys useing on the hub ? 

[ebinmaine 67,515]

1 minute ago, Wheelhorse#1 said:

Ive been wanting to do this to my machines.What size bolts are you guys useing on the hub ? 

 

7/16-20 x 1 1/2" long. Or longer. 

Fully threaded. 

Bolt Depot in Hingham Mass stocks them. 

 

You'll need lug nuts too. 

Order those by size and you'll find quite a few available on fleeeeBay.  Open , closed, various colors etc.  

 

 

 

 

[Wheelhorse#1 1,665]

2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

7/16-20 x 1 1/2" long. Or longer. 

Fully threaded. 

Bolt Depot in Hingham Mass stocks them. 

 

You'll need lug nuts too. 

Order those by size and you'll find quite a few available on fleeeeBay.  Open , closed, various colors etc.  

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Eric 

Im ordering some up now .Been useing bolt depot for quite a wile now ,great prices and shipping too. 

[Handy Don 12,232]

21 minutes ago, Wheelhorse#1 said:

Been useing bolt depot for quite a wile now ,great prices and shipping too. 

I was in the BD’s vicinity for other reasons earlier this year and so I decided to stop in and check the place out.

It’s kinda like a fast food place in that you go to the counter, a friendly and helpful clerk takes your order and your money, you sit down and wait a few minutes and then bang--there’s your order all bagged up and you are good to go. The waiting area has some sample boards and literature but no product for browsing. NOT AT ALL like scoping the bins at the hardware or big box store.

[Wheelhorse#1 1,665]

@Handy Don

Now that's pretty neat! Maybe they will expand and put one close to my house (wishful thinking). 

[cleat 5,999]

We have a fastenal in town but unless you have a corporate account with them they will not sell to you.

 

Not that many big businesses in town either so I don't know how they stay in business.