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Charger 10 Trans: Where to start?

By LengerichKA88, in Transmissions and transaxles

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I liked, but didn’t find an applicable thread, so I made a new post. 

 

We got a 69 Charger 10 last Friday. The brakes don’t really stop it, kinda slows it to an idle speed. Still too fast for the brakes to be engaged. FIL did some reading and it’s apparently the gears that stop the tractor, so now we’re looking at servicing and possible actually doing work on the trans. That’s fine, not a problem, figured we’d get into this eventually, so with the one known issue at hand, how would/have you gone about tackling this trans? 

Trying to get voices of experience that might be able to save us a headache or two lol. TIA! 

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There are no brakes on a Charger 10.   there is a parking brake if you trtry to apply it while moving it grinds itself to death on  a gear in the tranny.  spewing metal shavings that circulate through the system eventually destroying the hydro.

 

The "brake pedal merely moves the motion control to neutral and the hydro action stops the tractor.  it will not hold on a hill.    Does it still have reasonable power when heated up?  If you put it against a fixed object will she spin her wheels with you on it???

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On page three of this manual you will find a procedure for setting the "Neutral Adjustment" which will stop the tractor. To hold mine in place on a hill I lower the FEL bucket or drop a 4 X 4 on a string that I carry. A bit crude but it works.

 

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You know Rich you could always replace/repair the parking pawl:P some what classier than a 4x4

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17 hours ago, pfrederi said:

There are no brakes on a Charger 10.   there is a parking brake if you trtry to apply it while moving it grinds itself to death on  a gear in the tranny.  spewing metal shavings that circulate through the system eventually destroying the hydro.

 

The "brake pedal merely moves the motion control to neutral and the hydro action stops the tractor.  it will not hold on a hill.    Does it still have reasonable power when heated up?  If you put it against a fixed object will she spin her wheels with you on it???

It’s got some other issues with it, so I don’t think it’s quite running at full steam as it is anyway. I DO know not to attempt to engage the parking break while in gear/moving. That was a very loud lesson I learned as a kid 😂😂.  The way it sounded when my FIL explained it, I was under the impression that something in the trans locked up when you depressed the clutch/brake, so that may have been the “brake”down in communication. Everything on this tractor is original. It still has the “Wheel Horse” branded tires all around, and with its general state, we just assumed (I know what that makes me 😂) that maybe something wasn’t engaging like it was supposed to. 

 

It does still creep forward even when on a level surface, but it was during unloading that I noticed it, which was on a slope.  

17 hours ago, 953 nut said:

On page three of this manual you will find a procedure for setting the "Neutral Adjustment" which will stop the tractor. To hold mine in place on a hill I lower the FEL bucket or drop a 4 X 4 on a string that I carry. A bit crude but it works.

 

Awesome! Maybe this will set us straight! 

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Seems the Neutral Adjustment got her right! Thanks fellas! 

 

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Does you parking brake work ???

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On 10/23/2018 at 3:35 PM, pfrederi said:

You know Rich you could always replace/repair the parking pawl:P some what classier than a 4x4

This is on the GT-14 with front end loader (sub-frame goes from front of frame to the rear axle), Three point hitch, loaded tires and the WW-93 15"wheel weights. By the time I removed all of that to remove the rear end It wouldn't be worth it. 

I may want to paint the 4 X 4 RED to make it a bit more classy.              :ychain:

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1 hour ago, pfrederi said:

Does you parking brake work ???

Yes it does! Sorry, I forgot to say in my initial response, but the parking brake has worked since we got it, and still does. 🤞🏻

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