proama 35 #1 Posted October 16, 2018 these hubs moved to end of shaft then stopped moving all together Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,871 #2 Posted October 16, 2018 First, tap your hubs back on (toward the trans body) then take a flat file or a 4" grinder and file any burrs on the end of the axles. If you have a spare hub, or if one of yours does come off, you can make a hub puller out of that. These work the best, as a regular puller has a tendency to break hubs. Do a search for hub pullers...you will see what it takes. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #3 Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, stevasaurus said: First, tap your hubs back on (toward the trans body) then take a flat file or a 4" grinder and file any burrs on the end of the axles. If you have a spare hub, or if one of yours does come off, you can make a hub puller out of the. These work the best, as a regular puller has a tendency to break hubs. Do a search for hub pullers...you will see what it takes. thanks Steve! I have two transmissions so I am hoping to make one good one be great to make two good ones ! but like your video's you never know whats inside! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #4 Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, proama said: thanks Steve! I have two transmissions so I am hoping to make one good one be great to make two good ones ! but like your video's you never know whats inside! 1 hour ago, proama said: thanks Steve! I have two transmissions so I am hoping to make one good one be great to make two good ones ! but like your video's you never know whats inside! Man Steve I think I love you lol! it worked great on the first side! next side should work fine! glade this forum has people who has been there done that many times before !thanks a million my friend! 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,871 #5 Posted October 16, 2018 Now that is one nice hub puller!!! If you have not drained the trans yet, pull out one of those bottom bolts that hold on the side plates to drain...there is no drain on the bottom. Also, once you drain it, throw in a couple of quarts of diesel...slosh it around good and drain that. It makes for a cleaner job when you do open it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #6 Posted October 17, 2018 ok I have two transmissions that are the same I took the worst one apart first and saw one case nub broke ! angry face!! and some of the gears are toast but I have not cleaned them yet! this transmission was stuck in nutral and I am having a hard time getting the fork ears to move at all to get the gears out!. angry face again!!!! I ran out of time to crack the other transmission open ! I really need some more fast orange hand cleaner!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,871 #7 Posted October 17, 2018 I can smell that transmission from here. Look for the nubie, it can be welded back on. Actually, that is not too bad. You might try tapping the shift rails with a ball peen to loosen, but be careful prying up with anything on the forks. Get the gears out and take off the other side, then you can tap those shift rails from the other side. I doubt you would have to use electrolysis with this one to loosen things up. Let's see pictures of all the gears when you get them clean. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #8 Posted October 18, 2018 8 hours ago, stevasaurus said: I can smell that transmission from here. Look for the nubie, it can be welded back on. Actually, that is not too bad. You might try tapping the shift rails with a ball peen to loosen, but be careful prying up with anything on the forks. Get the gears out and take off the other side, then you can tap those shift rails from the other side. I doubt you would have to use electrolysis with this one to loosen things up. Let's see pictures of all the gears when you get them clean. that transmission had a lot of bad gears in it missing teeth but my other transmission I opened up after work today and it looks great inside but the case had been brazed at one time and one bolt nub is cracked kinda loose but I was excited to see good looking gears! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #9 Posted October 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, proama said: that transmission had a lot of bad gears in it missing teeth but my other transmission I opened up after work today and it looks great inside but the case had been brazed at one time and one bolt nub is cracked kinda loose but I was excited to see good looking gears! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #10 Posted October 18, 2018 Just now, proama said: this come from first transmission really rough! clean gears come from the second transmission thank got they were in nice shape! there is a gear that felt like it was sloppy on a shaft though might be able to get better pics of it tomorrow ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #11 Posted October 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, proama said: this come from first transmission really rough! clean gears come from the second transmission thank got they were in nice shape! there is a gear that felt like it was sloppy on a shaft though might be able to get better pics of it tomorrow ! 9 minutes ago, proama said: this come from first transmission really rough! clean gears come from the second transmission thank got they were in nice shape! there is a gear that felt like it was sloppy on a shaft though might be able to get better pics of it tomorrow ! I got the forks to move in transmission that was stuck but I need to get a bigger roll pin removing tool to remove the rear end gears ! what size roll pin tool do I need? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,871 #12 Posted October 18, 2018 The differential contains two different sizes of roll pins. If you look at the parts list, it will list the size of those roll pins. I think one is 1/4" and the other is either 1/8" or 3/16". ACE carries a set of roll pin punches for about $12. A good set is about $25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #13 Posted October 18, 2018 8 hours ago, stevasaurus said: The differential contains two different sizes of roll pins. If you look at the parts list, it will list the size of those roll pins. I think one is 1/4" and the other is either 1/8" or 3/16". ACE carries a set of roll pin punches for about $12. A good set is about $25. great thanks ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #14 Posted October 18, 2018 Just now, proama said: great thanks ! yeah you have got to buy the nice ones the cheap ones break easy ! I wish I was retired so i could work on it everyday I think I am hooked on old wheel horses found two more that are a good drive but at 150 each might be worth it! if my wife lets me lol 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #15 Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 7:53 PM, proama said: yeah you have got to buy the nice ones the cheap ones break easy ! I wish I was retired so i could work on it everyday I think I am hooked on old wheel horses found two more that are a good drive but at 150 each might be worth it! if my wife lets me lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #16 Posted October 20, 2018 have some time today to clean gears and and source parts! is there some one that sells everything bearings bushings for gears too all in one bundle? maybe a 5010 complete overhaul kit ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proama 35 #17 Posted October 20, 2018 I am not sure if this is how you keep this post going or if your suppose to post new topics I am very new to all this and not the best at computers! sorry but I been replying to you in general but I am sure I am in good hands ! Sorry if I am not posting properly is what I mean. thanks michael 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #18 Posted October 20, 2018 You're doing fine... keep your original thread going here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #19 Posted October 20, 2018 Maybe PM (message) member Jake Kuhn here... I know he offers "complete kits" to overhaul some round hood transmissions. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/profile/4240-jake-kuhn/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #20 Posted October 20, 2018 ...or, Lowell's site... https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/ might be able to help you out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #21 Posted October 20, 2018 https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/transmissions.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites