42" Recycler Deck Won't Raise/Lower

[TC10284 111]

I have a 42" recycler deck that I took the recycling insert off and put it up so it would be just a rear discharge deck. I have tried to put this thing on two different tractors. One, a 414-8 with manual lift, and a 417A with hydraulic lift. It does the same thing on both. What it does is not lower but very, very little. An inch or less, even when the height adjustment lever is all the way at the lowest setting. I have compared as much as I can think of to my working rear discharge deck and can't figure out why the deck won't lower like the working one. They appear to look exactly alike. 

 

Here are some pictures of it. 

 

https://imgur.com/8cRvdBb

 

https://imgur.com/TCEYFsN

 

https://imgur.com/EHjlZx1

 

https://imgur.com/oexxhg2

 

https://imgur.com/D309zgI

 

https://imgur.com/ozWhpEG

 

https://i.imgur.com/TCEYFsN

 

Edited August 25, 2018 by TC10284

[953 nut 55,081]

Your deck has an arm with a slot in it. On your tractor thee is an arm with a pin sticking out at the front, Lower the lift mechanism and you will see the arm with the pin sticking out to the side. As you slide the mower deck under the tractor you will need to raise the slotted arm up to allow the pin to enter the slot. Think of it as allowing the deck and the tractor to consummate their relationship!    

Following this you will need to attach the front cross bar of the deck to the atach-a matic.

[Ed Kennell 38,022]

The forked tab on the front deck rod must be swung up and hooked on the front rod of the attac-matic as you attach the  rod in the attach-a-matic.

[TC10284 111]

3 hours ago, 953 nut said:

Your deck has an arm with a slot in it. On your tractor thee is an arm with a pin sticking out at the front, Lower the lift mechanism and you will see the arm with the pin sticking out to the side. As you slide the mower deck under the tractor you will need to raise the slotted arm up to allow the pin to enter the slot. Think of it as allowing the deck and the tractor to consummate their relationship!    

Following this you will need to attach the front cross bar of the deck to the atach-a matic.

 

Yeah, see I've done this and this is definitely not my first (or 10th) round of putting on a deck on an attach a matic. 

I've done this and also make sure the front bar with hook goes onto the right part of the tractor. On both tractors when I mounted the deck. It made no difference. 

[Ed Kennell 38,022]

Pictures on the tractor may help.      Can we assume the rear height adjustment wheels do drop till they touch the ground?   And can we assume the deck lift bar is lowering enough and is not holding the deck up?    And can we assume it is the front of the deck that will not drop?

The front height is controlled by adjusting the threaded "L" bolt at the rear of the deck. 

[953 nut 55,081]

2 hours ago, TC10284 said:

 

Yeah, see I've done this and this is definitely not my first (or 10th) round of putting on a deck on an attach a matic. 

I've done this and also make sure the front bar with hook goes onto the right part of the tractor. On both tractors when I mounted the deck. It made no difference. 

Didn't mean to offend you, just attempting to help!                           Take a look at the lift limiter.

[Ed Kennell 38,022]

Please don't be offended, as I almost hate to mention this, but all your pictures show the rear height adjustment wheels in the highest deck  setting.

[TC10284 111]

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sound upset in my post. 

 

When I get some time to remount the deck in question, I will do that and check on these posts. 

 

I'll put it on my 414-8 with the working rear discharge deck and see if there's any difference even then. 

[EricF 589]

The front height adjustment is pretty much set-and-forget unless you regularly move the deck around among different tractors, and it shouldn't have much visible effect on lift height -- it just determines where the front of the deck settles when it's down. Although if it's badly out of adjustment or bent, it may do some strange things because it applies leverage through the brackets to "float" the front when the rear wheels are resting on the ground. Make sure all the pivots and bits of the front height adjuster and the rest of the deck hanger arms are able to move freely. If something is binding up, the lift action may hang up and prevent the deck from lowering as it should.

[TC10284 111]

I was able to get it resolved yesterday. Part of it was the 417A tractor I had it on (another deck on the 417A did the same thing). The four link chain was too long to allow it to actually pull the arm up with the lift. I adjusted to the third link on the chain. Now it raises and lowers properly. 

 

And also, I lowered the adjustment L bolt on the back of the deck as far as it would go and that seemed to resolve it. After I did that, it worked fine on the other 414-8. 

 

Thanks to everyone that helped! 

Edited September 3, 2018 by TC10284