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Jamie Darian Brown

Hi, 

 

Here is a pic of my solenoid on my B80 that needs replacing.  When searching for one online I see ones that show up for a wheelhorse but do not exactly look like this one.   Will these "new" ones fit but just look different?    Trying to make sure I order right one.   

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Racinbob

If your parts store doesn't have the three terminal you can use a Ford four terminal. Simply ignore the 'I' terminal. :)

 

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Jamie Darian Brown

Here is pic of one online I found... different... but will it change out and work?   

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Jamie Darian Brown

so the above  pic I have of new one online would be the "three" terminal and would work.... though shaped diff.....   

  

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Racinbob

As long as it's 12 volts it will work great. :)

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WHX??

You should also be able to take your old one into any auto parts store and they will fix you up.

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953 nut

Your present solenoid may be the problem, or there may be another problem that makes you think there is a bad one.

Have you cleaned and tightened all electrical connections including grounds? If you run a small jumper wire from your battery "+" terminal to the small terminal on the solenoid do you hear it close?

Just hate to see people buy a bunch of parts only to find that there was another simple fix that could have cured the problem.

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Jamie Darian Brown

I tested it like you said. I don't hear it close or click so I assume its bad.    Thank for that tip on testing it.   And thanks to all for y'alls help!   Gotta get it ready to till the garden :-)

 

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oldredrider

Solenoids do go bad,  but make sure it is well grounded when testing it before writing it off.

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mike avad

How can you tell if there bad?

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953 nut
6 hours ago, mike avad said:

How can you tell if there bad?

 

Lets take a logical step by step inspection of your starter problem.

Is your PTO in the ON position, a wheel horse will not start with the PTO on.

Have you had the battery load tested at an auto parts store?

Have you cleaned and tightened all electrical connections including grounds?

Are all fuses good and fuse holders cleaned?

If these have all been done, we can check components of the starting system as follows; don’t skip a step or you may miss the problem.

Be sure the transmission is in neutral and the parking brake is set.

Take a pair of automotive jumper cables and connect the black cable to your battery  "-" and a good clean spot on the engine. Now connect the other cable to the large post on the starter and touch the other end to the battery "+" terminal, does the starter turn over? If the starter turns over the battery and starter are good. If it didn't turn over try the same steps with the battery in your car/truck, if that cures the problem then the "good" battery wasn't so good.

Presuming the starter turned over move the jumper wire from the starter post to the other end of the wire going to the starter which is one of the large posts on the solenoid. If the starter turns over when the battery is touched by the jumper as before then that cable is good, if not you have found your problem.

Presuming the starter turned over move that jumper to the other terminal of the solenoid, connect the other end to the battery and use a small piece of wire to temporarily connect the battery "+" terminal to the small terminal on the solenoid, this should cause the solenoid to close and the starter to turn over. If not, the solenoid is probably the problem.

If this was successful remove the large jumper cable and use the small jumper wire to the small terminal of the solenoid, the solenoid should close and the starter turn over. If not the cable to the battery is the problem.

Presuming all of these have been successful remove the black jumper wire and repeat the small jumper to small terminal, if the starter turns over the ground is good.

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