What have you done to your Wheel Horse today?

[ebinmaine 67,435]

1 minute ago, Brockport Bill said:

 do you think I would still need to weld the crack?? Do you think the angle iron bar has to be welded on, or would just attaching the angle iron with the 2 bolts be sufficient to create strength and stability across the plate? thanks, Bill 

 

Because that crack is so extensive AND begins at and edge AND goes almost or even in to the corner...

I'd be VERY LEARY about using that machine in the continued manner and tasks it has been unless that crack welded or frame swapped. 

 

I've added a 90⁰ piece of angle iron into corner of the frame on my Automatic Tractor.  The one I did was from a pic @Lee1977 Don sent me.  

It's bolted to the transmission of course but also to the sides of the frame following the factory bend. 

 

With an addition like I MIGHT keep using the machine as previously used.  

 

[Brockport Bill 1,661]

6 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

Because that crack is so extensive AND begins at and edge AND goes almost or even in to the corner...

I'd be VERY LEARY about using that machine in the continued manner and tasks it has been unless that crack welded or frame swapped. 

 

I've added a 90⁰ piece of angle iron into corner of the frame on my Automatic Tractor.  The one I did was from a pic @Lee1977 Don sent me.  

It's bolted to the transmission of course but also to the sides of the frame following the factory bend. 

 

With an addition like I MIGHT keep using the machine as previously used.  

 

Eric -- do you have any photos of the "fix" you mention or a link anywhere -thanks, Bill

[ebinmaine 67,435]

27 minutes ago, Brockport Bill said:

Eric -- do you have any photos of the "fix" you mention or a link anywhere -thanks, Bill

If Lee doesn't pop in with them first I can post them later

[Lee1977 6,656]

That crack needs welding then add bracing to keep it from happened again.

I use 1 1/2" x 1/4: steel then grind it on the back side to fit between thoes raised places on the transmission plate.

 

Then I weld the braces into the bottom 1 1/2" x 1/4" bar,

Edited January 3 by Lee1977

[WHX?? 48,815]

Starting to look like a 301. High lighting the timing mark really works good for static timing.  

Carb is really nasty and not looking forward to saving it. Bushing is real good tho so gotta try. 

 

Wonder how old this can of silver is?!?! $2.89?!?! Used it on the flywheel ok. 

Edited January 2 by WHX??

[ebinmaine 67,435]

1 hour ago, Brockport Bill said:

Eric -- do you have any photos of the "fix" you mention or a link anywhere -thanks, Bill

 

Bill I have measurements somewhere. 

 

He's a pic. 

 

 

 

After this I added a bolt at the bottom.  

I don't use the factory mower lift bar. 

 

 

[JCM 9,130]

$ 2.89  @WHX??    Nice paint job on that Kohler 

[ebinmaine 67,435]

4 minutes ago, JCM said:

$ 2.89  @WHX??    Nice paint   

 

Been around awhile ain't it???

[WHX?? 48,815]

3 minutes ago, JCM said:

$ 2.89  @WHX??    Nice paint job on that Kohler 

RIGHT? I think it came from dad's place after he passed. He had like 4 cans of silver! I'm just trying to use it up.  

The red on the motor Plunge? No less than 3 different colors... 

Van Sickel in IH red & MF red with a little regal thrown in for good measure. Trying to burn up them 1/4 cans. Just a spare shelf motor anyway case someone blows one up at plow day. 

[Brockport Bill 1,661]

12 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

Bill I have measurements somewhere. 

 

He's a pic. 

 

 

 

After this I added a bolt at the bottom.  

I don't use the factory mower lift bar. 

 

 

thanks -- that's terrific solution -- any details would be helpful -- especially if you have measurements so i don't have to climb under tractor with tape measure ( post disc neck surgery). Not being a welder or having any fabrication skills, I'm thinking to have the stock fabricated for me. Any added ideas or insights are always appreciated. Bill 

[ebinmaine 67,435]

27 minutes ago, Brockport Bill said:

thanks -- that's terrific solution -- any details would be helpful -- especially if you have measurements so i don't have to climb under tractor with tape measure ( post disc neck surgery). Not being a welder or having any fabrication skills, I'm thinking to have the stock fabricated for me. Any added ideas or insights are always appreciated. Bill 

 

 

Here's a link to the Post where it shows the drawing I followed and some in process pics.

 

 

 

He's the pics after the bolts were all in.  

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 3 by ebinmaine
ADDED INFO

[Handy Don 12,214]

14 hours ago, Brockport Bill said:

I'm thinking to have the stock fabricated for me. Any added ideas or insights are always appreciated. Bill 

This is another approach. The original of this document came from a forum member (apologies that I don’t remember their handle  edit: @mrc tells me it was @daveoman1966). I’ve reformatted it and added some of my own experience.

WH Frame Plate Fix v2.pdf

Edited January 3 by Handy Don

[mrc 812]

handy don,

 

  i believe daveoman is the member that you are referring to.

[Brockport Bill 1,661]

3 hours ago, Handy Don said:

This is another approach. The original of this document came from a forum member (apologies that I don’t remember their handle ). I’ve reformatted it and added some of my own experience.

WH Frame Plate Fix v2.pdf 420.95 kB · 4 downloads

wow - - thats awesome -- many thanks Don !!!

[Lee1977 6,656]

8 hours ago, Brockport Bill said:

wow - - thats awesome -- many thanks Don !!!

That transmission plate needs to be welded first for a permeant fix. Neither system used will stop that crack they are for reinforcement of the original .. That just my option. 

[johnnymag3 2,520]

15 hours ago, Lee1977 said:

That crack needs welding then add bracing to keep it from happened again.

I use 1 1/2" x 1/4: steel then grind it on the back side to fit between thoes raised places on the transmission plate.

 

Then I weld the braces into the bottom 1 1/2" x 1/4" bar,

This is the CORRECT way to repair this weak area in ALL of the Horses.....putting a flat piece of stock flat on the affected area doesn't do beans !!!  the Triangulation is what's critical...this is done to perfection.   You can also bolt a piece of flat stock to existing holes in frame / plate to achieve similar results    at a 45 degree angle...nice job on this one !!!!

[Handy Don 12,214]

2 minutes ago, johnnymag3 said:

This is the CORRECT way to repair this weak area in ALL of the Horses.....putting a flat piece of stock flat on the affected area doesn't do beans !!!  the Triangulation is what's critical...this is done to perfection.   You can also bolt a piece of flat stock to existing holes in frame / plate to achieve similar results    at a 45 degree angle...nice job on this one !!!!

I concur that this is among the strongest approaches, but for many users it may well be more than needed.

 

[cleat 5,932]

I repaired one last summer that had cracks.

This was from a basket case 416 I dragged home a few years back.

Unfortunately I don't have a before pic but you can see from the welds where the cracks were.

Cracks were ground out and welded up.

A 1/4" steel plate was welded in then welds were ground flat.

You can just see the spacer bars that were installed between plate and frame so it would sit flat.

 

Frame was then primed and painted.

This is the frame on my 520-8 project.

 

Edited January 3 by cleat

[WHGuy413 2,683]

I haven’t been up to much til the last 2 days. I have a b-80 4 speed that someone converted to a 8 speed. My plan for this tractor has always been to put my loader on it. This spring Alex and I flushed the transmission out and it drove and sounded great. But it sat for a couple weeks while I waited for a seal kit. After that it wouldn’t shift into any gear or range. I found a 8 speed to put in it til I can pop open the other one to see what happened. Last night I tore the whole tractor apart today I swapped out the transmission and put it all back together minus hooking up the throttle and choke, fixing a wire I broke and putting the gas tank back on. @WheelHorse_Kid had it running like a top. Can’t wait to continue with this project. 

[matt monte 132]

not sure if this counts but im building a tow behind leaf blower. I mocked everything up and welded today. When I shoot red on my B80 chassis that im building, ill paint blower housing red to match, recently media blasted this

 

[Brockport Bill 1,661]

2 hours ago, matt monte said:

not sure if this counts but im building a tow behind leaf blower. I mocked everything up and welded today. When I shoot red on my B80 chassis that im building, ill paint blower housing red to match, recently media blasted this

 

beautiful tractor -- not sure if it's the lighting -- but what red paint color is that???? Looks bright and shiny

[matt monte 132]

not sure if this counts but im building a tow behind leaf blower. I mocked everything up and welded. When I shoot red on my B80 chassis that im building, ill paint blower housing red to match, recently media blasted. In the past i used that Majic paint for 60 bucks a gallon at tsc. Huge mistake, i know better. Was extremely hard to get it to lay out correctly, had to mess with air pressure and thin it out way past what data sheet suggests. I bought a few cans in aerosol form and spray bombed mule drive and trailer hitch 1st. Came out flawless, would never know it was a spray can. So i went for the gallon and shot it with my DeVilbiss hvlp gun. I will say that there tech support was friendly and attempted to help. Tractor still looks pretty because it just sits in shed. 42in deck that i restored with this 308 i put on my 312 mule for daily lawn cutting. In one season it dulled a bit and didnt hold up all that well. The latest restomod will be shot in, i think single stage red from summit racing, with all supplies, almost triple the price. In the process of making a temporary paint booth of my 12x20 shed.

 

[ebinmaine 67,435]

The BBT got her Military Tribute Tractor "Millie" ready for this weekend's snow fun!

 

25 lb inside weights. 65 lb outside weights. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We just need to wrap the rear sneakers with chains ⛓️  and she'll be ready to rumble! 

 

 

 

[OoPEZoO 522]

Nice looking wheel weights.  I have a decent set of outside steel weights and an OK set of outside plastic/concrete weights, but it seems those inside weights are sure hard to find.  I really like that the outside weights don't stick out past the edge of the tire.  I lost a corner piece of siding on the garage a few years ago when one of the protruding nuts on the plastic weights clipped it while plowing.  I think we are only slated for a few inches of snow this weekend, but I'm looking forward to breaking out the plow

[ebinmaine 67,435]

4 hours ago, OoPEZoO said:

Nice looking wheel weights.  I have a decent set of outside steel weights and an OK set of outside plastic/concrete weights, but it seems those inside weights are sure hard to find.  I really like that the outside weights don't stick out past the edge of the tire.  I lost a corner piece of siding on the garage a few years ago when one of the protruding nuts on the plastic weights clipped it while plowing.  I think we are only slated for a few inches of snow this weekend, but I'm looking forward to breaking out the plow

 

Thanks. 

We like these Bolens weights for all the above reasons.  They're on the heavy side for most 12" weights too. 

We have 3 sets I think and I'd buy more if the price was right.  

 

Those inside weights are from an IHC Cub. They were used on the front of their models. 

Couple sets of those here but the other other set needs minor grinding before they'll fit over a Wheelhorse hub. 

Those are stackable as well, provided of course, one has the space.  

 

Our latest NWS Forecast has us getting about 6-8 inches by Sunday evening. More towards the seacoast.