squonk 41,104 #10201 Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) "Well I cleaned off the points and put a new spark plug on 875. Connected some jumper cables from my truck to the tractor. Hit the button and it spun around and around and nothing." Did it spin real fast like the starter was on steroids? If it did it may be ,stuck valve, Broken rod or even a broken cam. Do the points open and close whilst cranking. If they don't move that points to the cam broken or not turning. Edited April 5, 2021 by squonk 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #10202 Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, D_Mac said: Well I cleaned off the points and put a new spark plug on 875. Connected some jumper cables from my truck to the tractor. Hit the button and it spun around and around and nothing. Pulled the plug and cleaned the points again. Left the plug out to see if I was getting spark and no spark. Disappointed so I turned my attention to the hot rod trailer. Put some fresh paint on it and decided I liked it not so fresh. Taking the tractor to a friend's for help. Keep you updated. Did you check the new spark plug. It's not common but I have had bad plugs rite out of the box. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #10203 Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, D_Mac said: Well I cleaned off the points and put a new spark plug on 875. Connected some jumper cables from my truck to the tractor. Hit the button and it spun around and around and nothing. Pulled the plug and cleaned the points again. Left the plug out to see if I was getting spark and no spark. Disappointed so I turned my attention to the hot rod trailer. Put some fresh paint on it and decided I liked it not so fresh. Taking the tractor to a friend's for help. Keep you updated. Did you check the new spark plug. It's not common but I have had bad plugs rite out of the box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,659 #10204 Posted April 5, 2021 The U S Navy issued me some tools back in 1967 and said take good care of them, so I did still have some of them. I would guess the New York Central Railroad did the same. 2 hours ago, pfrederi said: Getting ready to put the snow horses to bed for the summer. Did some straightening of the blower assisted by the New York Central Railroad..Father "borrowed" the wrench about 1930 when he worked at the West Albany Shops (stamped N.Y.C.L)...... Central is gone, Shops are gone Father is gone 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Mac 8,618 #10205 Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, squonk said: "Well I cleaned off the points and put a new spark plug on 875. Connected some jumper cables from my truck to the tractor. Hit the button and it spun around and around and nothing." Did it spin real fast like the starter was on steroids? If it did it may be ,stuck valve, Broken rod or even a broken cam. Do the points open and close whilst cranking. If they don't move that points to the cam broken or not turning. The points opened and closed. There was a noise that didnt seem to be normal but I dont think it was coming from the engine. It seemed to be coming from behind the drive belt guard on the right side. I tried two plugs. When I picked it up from previous owner the wire from the coil to the spark was disconnected at the coil end. Seemed to be wet in there so maybe its bad coil or wire. I did apply some decals. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,104 #10206 Posted April 5, 2021 Better look at the belt drive area good. Could be the idler pulley ready to hand grenade under the belt guard or the hydro fan screen ready to detonate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krystolo 504 #10207 Posted April 5, 2021 I did something I never could have imagined myself doing today. Thanks to this forum, the encouragement of the members and detailed instructions from @T-Mo, I rebuilt my carburetor! thank you! 5 15 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey the Monkey 697 #10208 Posted April 5, 2021 @krystolo sure is a warm fuzzy feeling isn't it? Horses are great, 4 legged, or wheeled! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,361 #10209 Posted April 5, 2021 40 minutes ago, krystolo said: @T-Mo I rebuilt my carburetor! thank you! Glad you were able to do it, as you found out, it isn't all that difficult. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cee245 818 #10210 Posted April 5, 2021 The last few days... I took apart the 97 416H, Onan P216, decarboned the pistons and heads, cleaned all the fins etc. Put all new gaskets, new oil pressure sensor, cleaned carb and drilled holes in belt cover to help dissipate heat. Still have to finish up some stuff, but lots done. On my 417A, I kept messing with the points cover. Ugh. I have new kohler points and condenser, also replaced the wire from the coil. When I tighten the 2 cover screws, it cuts out... I can run it, then tighten the screw and before it shuts off, loosen it and it runs... ??? I have a video as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,225 #10211 Posted April 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cee245 said: When I tighten the 2 cover screws, it cuts out... I can run it, then tighten the screw and before it shuts off, loosen it and it runs.. Pinching the wire? There is a small notch and a rubber grommet on one end of the points cover. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cee245 818 #10212 Posted April 5, 2021 Right. I have the grommet in place with wires where they should be I think. They are not tight either. I'm stumped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19richie66 17,506 #10213 Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) Is there a gasket under the cover? Possible the points are touching the inside of the cover and grounding out? I now see the gasket. Edited April 5, 2021 by 19richie66 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,225 #10214 Posted April 5, 2021 or the terminal on the new wire may need to be wrapped with tape. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cee245 818 #10215 Posted April 5, 2021 Yes it has the gasket... I will try taping. It's gotta be shorting out somehow! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldWorkHorse 3,045 #10216 Posted April 5, 2021 Worked on the shifter a little more got it to where I like it and continued work on the spacer block under the console. Made some wings for it to spread the weight over. Just got to drill the block and bolt them on tomorrow. 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #10217 Posted April 6, 2021 Got four horses out of their toy hauler winter quarters. All four fired right off. Power washed the winter gunk off the garage floor and got three in for oil checks, fresh gas and maintenance. The flame... new correct steering wheel...thanks @Achto.... 1067 some tie rod work... RJ-59 new belt. 2 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #10218 Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, WHX24 said: Got four horses out of their toy hauler winter quarters. All four fired right off. Power washed the winter gunk off the garage floor and got three in for oil checks, fresh gas and maintenance. The flame... new correct steering wheel...thanks @Achto.... 1067 some tie rod work... RJ-59 new belt. Great looking bunch. What color is that red of the round hood on the left. My ear is still ringing from the squeal the wife made when she saw it. I think she likes it. 😄 I really like the headlight placement as well. 2 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,557 #10219 Posted April 6, 2021 I ate my hood ornament... 1 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,361 #10220 Posted April 6, 2021 Is the one, 2nd from the left a 68 Commando 8? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,361 #10221 Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: I ate my hood ornament... 2 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,069 #10222 Posted April 6, 2021 5 hours ago, pfrederi said: Central is gone, Shops are gone Father is gone Wrench still here ! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,571 #10223 Posted April 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, Oldskool said: What color is that red of the round hood on the left. My ear is still ringing from the squeal the wife made when she saw it The paint on that one is House of Kolor candy apple red over a silver base coat. Here is Jim's build thread on it. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,496 #10224 Posted April 6, 2021 11 hours ago, krystolo said: I did something I never could have imagined myself doing today. Thanks to this forum, the encouragement of the members and detailed instructions from @T-Mo, I rebuilt my carburetor! thank you! Congratulations, and way to go. Having a forum that cares, who are knowledgeable, and willing to give "good" advice is great on the projects we need done. Again, congrats on tackling this yourself. 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #10225 Posted April 6, 2021 12 hours ago, rjg854 said: Is the one, 2nd from the left a 68 Commando 8? Close Randy........ 1067 Thread here 1067 Refresh & Mods. - Restorations, Modifications, & Customizations - RedSquare Wheel Horse Forum 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites