Horse Newbie 7,069 #9751 Posted March 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said: Did you wipe down with denatured alcohol to remove any residual hand oils or anything? Nope, no alcohol... just a clean, lent free cloth...fabric softener, or detergent residue maybe ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #9752 Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: Nope, no alcohol... I would have... but I doubt that is the cause. What was the temperature when you painted? Quote Why did my spray paint crackle? The most common culprits why spray paint crackles are temperature, when it is too hot or too cold, or applying too much paint in one go. When you apply spray paint in conditions too hot, the solvent in the paint evaporates, causing the paint to shrivel up and crack. Quote Why did my Rustoleum paint wrinkling? The most common – is applying the paint too thickly – which makes the surface of the paint dry too fast and not the underside. Edited March 15, 2021 by Jeff-C175 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
76c12091520h 3,618 #9753 Posted March 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said: I would have... but I doubt that is the cause. What was the temperature when you painted? Another problem with aerosol products/ spray can paint is that it never truly dries. It can be re-activated hours, days, weeks, even years after application, 'cuz there is no hardener in it. If you can wipe your existing paint(no matter how old) with a lacquer thinner soaked rag and you get color on your rag, all bets are off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,492 #9754 Posted March 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: Nope, no alcohol... just a clean, lent free cloth...fabric softener, or detergent residue maybe ??? Always always always clean the surface with a solvent. Always. The Paint Department here (Trina) uses almost exclusively Rust-Oleum 2X paint and cleans the surface with acetone. Always. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #9755 Posted March 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: Hood not sitting in sun...do you know whether the original paint was lacquer or enamel ? Should have been some variant of enamel. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tach-a-matic 357 #9756 Posted March 16, 2021 This evening I took the plastic pan off the C-125 in preparation for a metal one checked hydro fluid and it looks brand new woo-hoo! 6 out of 8 holes line up will have to enlarge these two right ones to make it work. Nothing is bent that I can tell and put on a new deck drive belt 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleat 5,970 #9757 Posted March 16, 2021 Hole issue is no big deal, just give it a push over and the holes should line up good enough. The bracket underneath is a big U shape so it moves pretty easy. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tach-a-matic 357 #9758 Posted March 16, 2021 will try moving the bracket first! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #9759 Posted March 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tach-a-matic said: will try moving the bracket first! Only finger tight until you get all 4 started. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,069 #9760 Posted March 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Always always always clean the surface with a solvent. Always. The Paint Department here (Trina) uses almost exclusively Rust-Oleum 2X paint and cleans the surface with acetone. Always. Thanks @ebinmaine...I know what you are saying... I usually do clean it with something...not gas...but I have to say, why would it do it in just a few areas ?? And I' ve had weird things happen before with cleaning meticulously, and just air blow and wiping... One thing fur sure...I ain't whomped yet ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,069 #9761 Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeff-C175 said: What was the temperature when you painted? Probably mid to high 60's... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,492 #9762 Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: Thanks @ebinmaine...I know what you are saying... I usually do clean it with something...not gas...but I have to say, why would it do it in just a few areas ?? And I' ve had weird things happen before with cleaning meticulously, and just air blow and wiping... One thing fur sure...I ain't whomped yet ! It's entirely possible that all the areas were clean or adhered better. It's also possible (even likely) that you had a better spray angle in the rest of the areas. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,069 #9763 Posted March 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, Tach-a-matic said: will have to enlarge these two right ones to make it work. Mine on my 520H were sorta like that... I used a scratch awl to align one hole, then started the bolt in the other...didn't have to enlarge the holes... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haydendavid380 759 #9764 Posted March 16, 2021 Working on some front weight for the B80 to do some plowing. Sticking it on the front with this 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #9765 Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tach-a-matic said: have to enlarge these two right ones to make it work You should be able to flex the brackets far enough to line up the holes. Posted before seeing others said it first, sorry! Edited March 16, 2021 by Jeff-C175 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raposo 530 #9766 Posted March 16, 2021 Waiting on McMaster Carr to drop off a inner bushing for the left side then I can mount it all up and check for fitment! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,492 #9767 Posted March 16, 2021 6 hours ago, haydendavid380 said: Working on some front weight for the B80 to do some plowing If you have a gravel drive use roller chains. Works wonders. I put about 85 to 90 lbs on Trina's 867 Pigpen's front end this year. Works just about right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #9768 Posted March 16, 2021 14 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: So before I put on my new decals from @Vinylguy I decided to paint my hood and seat pan Rustoleum Regal Red... The under side of the hood turned out great, but I got some "cracking" on the outside of the hood. Can someone take a look at these pics and tell me what may have caused it ? I want to avoid it happening on the seat pan if I can. Thanks, Tim (Horse Newbie) Enamels have a critical time window where the second coat will wrinkle the first. That window moves a bit with temperature. Looks like you unfortunately just found one of the boundaries of that window. Enamel dries in two stages, first is just solvent evaporation and the second is the paint is combining with oxygen and curing. Second coat must be applied either before the curing starts or well afterwards, again dependant on the temp and even somewhat on the humidity. Label should offer some guidelines. Probably the best fix is to solvent wipe it off immediately and start over. But you can try to let it dry for as long as you can stand it, a few days in hot weather, WAY longer, a month in cool weather, and sand it smooth and test an area. Catalyzed/2 part enamels will setup much, much sooner and be much more stable. Good luck. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,228 #9769 Posted March 16, 2021 14 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: before I put on my new decals from @Vinylguy I decided to paint my hood and seat pan Rustoleum Regal Red. You need to allow the paint to cure a couple of weeks before putting decals on. the paint off-gassing will cause it to lift if it is covered too soon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,867 #9770 Posted March 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: Thanks @ebinmaine...I know what you are saying... I usually do clean it with something...not gas...but I have to say, why would it do it in just a few areas ?? And I' ve had weird things happen before with cleaning meticulously, and just air blow and wiping... One thing fur sure...I ain't whomped yet ! When I saw the bottom of the hood wrinkled, I thought possibly blow by hazing front the engine vent cover or the carb. I have a couple of hoods that stay moist in that area for one reason or another. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,492 #9771 Posted March 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, 953 nut said: You need to allow the paint to cure a couple of weeks before putting decals on. the paint off-gassing will cause it to lift if it is covered too soon. I'd be more prone to recommend at least 4 to 6 weeks. We normally wait 8 to 10 weeks to put decals on after using a spray can paint 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #9772 Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: Probably mid to high 60's... Should have been OK. I suspect that the application in those areas may have been heavier. The areas that show 'orange peel' but not 'wrinkled' could be an indication that the can was too close to the work, the propellant can 'blow' the surface like that when too close. Did you prime the hood before top coating? If so, with what? Edited March 16, 2021 by Jeff-C175 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,171 #9773 Posted March 16, 2021 Installed the new seat on the 417H. Then took a 3 hour test ride pulling the rake and sweeper. It smooths out the bumps and feels secure on the side hill. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #9774 Posted March 16, 2021 Not "orange peel" but wrinkling. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #9775 Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Ed Kennell said: Installed the new seat on the 417H. Then took a 3 hour test ride pulling the rake and sweeper. It smooths out the bumps and feels secure on the side hill. Ejection seat! Nice! How far will it launch you? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
