What have you done to your Wheel Horse today?

[ebinmaine 67,641]

2 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

 

On the other hand, the lack of duct tape indicates a very poor level of engineering know how... certainly below par for the average Red Square expert... 

Agreed. 

However:

I feel that in these modern times gorilla tape is a minimum. 

 

[echris 1,425]

37 minutes ago, Bostman67 said:

I did some exploring into some of the issues I may be facing with my recent purchased of a 1277 Wheel Horse from 1967.

It's not all bad. I'm not a farmer. My Dad was when he was young. One of the many things Dad taught me was "The Farmer Field Fix ™". If I recall correctly, bailing wire is the #1 field tool.

There are few requirements for "The Farmer Field Fix ™"
They are thusly:
1). It now works.

2). It probably does not look pretty.

3). It now works.


EDIT: Because #1 and #3 are all that matters when it really comes down to it.
 

Edited October 12, 2020 by echris

[lynnmor 7,308]

51 minutes ago, Bostman67 said:

I did some exploring into some of the issues I may be facing with my recent purchased of a 1277 Wheel Horse from 1967.

 

 

What a great idea, instead of using grease and oil to prevent wear, just add a few wraps of baling wire to take up the slack. 

[Burnerman 758]

20 minutes ago, echris said:

It's not all bad. I'm not a farmer. My Dad was when he was young. One of the many things Dad taught me was "The Farmer Field Fix ™". If I recall correctly, bailing wire is the #1 field tool.

There are few requirements for "The Farmer Field Fix ™"
They are thusly:
1). It now works.

2). It probably does not look pretty.

3). It now works.


EDIT: Because #1 and #3 are all that matters when it really comes down to it.
 

Are you sure that’s just not safety wire? 😁

[echris 1,425]

Just now, Burnerman said:

Are you sure that’s just not safety wire? 😁

 

I suppose that would all depend upon your perspective.

Little kid me once watched my Dad repair a broken shovel handle with bailing wire. Little kid me thought, "No way is that going to work." A thousand turns later and Dad was shoveling again. Was that safety or bailing wire? The world will never know.

[ebinmaine 67,641]

29 minutes ago, echris said:

It's not all bad. I'm not a farmer. My Dad was when he was young. One of the many things Dad taught me was "The Farmer Field Fix ™". If I recall correctly, bailing wire is the #1 field tool.

There are few requirements for "The Farmer Field Fix ™"
They are thusly:
1). It now works.

2). It probably does not look pretty.

3). It now works.


EDIT: Because #1 and #3 are all that matters when it really comes down to it.
 

Having been born and raised in farm country I have to edit the edit. 

 

#4. Guaranteed failure at the very next "least convenient" time because it was working so why fix it right....

 

[echris 1,425]

So #5 bust out the bailing wire?

 

[8ntruck 7,018]

Pulled the dock out of the lake today.  Job wasn't that bad.  Just had to wait until my legs went numb from the cold mid October water.

 

The Horse did some cart work pulling the dock sections up the hill to their winter storage.  Munched leaves on the way down the hill for the next dock section.

 

Plugged the 2" hitch into the receiver hitch on the tractor and moved the pontoon (on the trailer) to within hose reach so I can pressure wash it tomorrow.

[echris 1,425]

I convinced my father-in-law years ago that nobody needs to go swimming to install or remove the docks. He has a typical design, dock brackets with ~1 1/2" steel pipe.
We used a foam float about 4'x2'x1'. To install, lay the float in the water, lay the dock section on top, ratchet strap the two together and float the dock into position. Secure the new section to the nearest shore dock section, lay decking down, walk out with your pipe, and drive it in. Level the section, secure the set screw. Repeat.

Same goes for removing. No need for swimming.

And also,

[Ed Kennell 38,227]

3 hours ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

 

On the other hand, the lack of duct tape indicates a very poor level of engineering know how... certainly below par for the average Red Square expert... 

 

Duct tape ???   C'mon Jim,  most of us EXPERTS have graduated from baling wire and duct and are now  using this high tech tie rod repair kit.

 

[echris 1,425]

Zippy ties!!!

 

[ebinmaine 67,641]

5 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

 

Duct tape ???   C'mon Jim,  most of us EXPERTS have graduated from baling wire and duct and are now  using this high tech tie rod repair kit.

 

I must concede to the senior level repair person here. 

[SylvanLakeWH 25,602]

5 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

 

Duct tape ???   C'mon Jim,  most of us EXPERTS have graduated from baling wire and duct and are now  using this high tech tie rod repair kit.

 

 

50 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

I must concede to the senior level repair person here. 

 

Me as well...me as well...

 

  @Ed Kennell

 

Hhhmmm... perhaps there is a Haiku lesson in this somewhere... 

[Pullstart 62,916]

13 hours ago, Bostman67 said:

I did some exploring into some of the issues I may be facing with my recent purchased of a 1277 Wheel Horse from 1967.

 

 to RedSquare and for becoming a supporting member so soon!

[Pullstart 62,916]

12 hours ago, echris said:

It's not all bad. I'm not a farmer. My Dad was when he was young. One of the many things Dad taught me was "The Farmer Field Fix ™". If I recall correctly, bailing wire is the #1 field tool.

There are few requirements for "The Farmer Field Fix ™"
They are thusly:
1). It now works.

2). It probably does not look pretty.

3). It now works.


EDIT: Because #1 and #3 are all that matters when it really comes down to it.
 

Richard @953 nut is a big fan of bailing wire as well!  We’re you a farmer before?  Difference is, he does a real good job at it!  They even work as ratchet straps!

[squonk 41,156]

9 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

 

Duct tape ???   C'mon Jim,  most of us EXPERTS have graduated from baling wire and duct and are now  using this high tech tie rod repair kit.

 

The white tie straps are good for 6 month's or 6000 miles. The black have better uv ratings and are good for 2 years unlimited miles. 

[bottjernat1 2,190]

 

[Ed Kennell 38,227]

3 minutes ago, squonk said:

The white tie straps are good for 6 month's or 6000 miles. The black have better uv ratings and are good for 2 years unlimited miles. 

Good info Mike.    We should also note, unlike baling wire and duct tape, these zippy ties are non-corrosive and waterproof.

[SylvanLakeWH 25,602]

8 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Good info Mike.    We should also note, unlike baling wire and duct tape, these zippy ties are non-corrosive and waterproof.

 

Agree.

 

But is there an analysis of the relative impact of my carbon footprint using baling wire, duct tape or zip ties (clear and black)? 

Edited October 12, 2020 by SylvanLakeWH

[WHX?? 48,833]

You  sure are getting yer moneys worth out of that baling wire fix!

Since it don't take much to entertain you guys I should have taken pics of the hose clamps holding the front wheels on a tractor that just got parted out here. 

Never mind them @Bostman67 a 1277 is one of my favs no matter what the shape! 

Like Kev said for becoming a supporter! 

Edited October 12, 2020 by WHX24

[Ed Kennell 38,227]

2 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

 

Agree.

 

But is there an analysis of the relative impact of my carbon footprint using baling wire, duct tape or zip ties (clear and black)? 

Not sure on the carbon impact Jim.     

Let's see;

baling wire is made from old rusty Chevys

duct  tape uses dead horses for the glue

zip ties are made from milk bottles

 

May be the chemist will chime in.....might also hear from a couple Chevy owners.

[AMC RULES 37,130]

 

[WHX?? 48,833]

Oh Balls... now even Madge has got too much time on his hands! 

[pfrederi 17,741]

13 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Having been born and raised in farm country I have to edit the edit. 

 

#4. Guaranteed failure at the very next "least convenient" time because it was working so why fix it right....

 

 

 

Hate rain on parades here but it is hard to find bailing wire anymore. Poly  twine on small bales mesh or plastic wrap on round bales is the new norm...

[Ed Kennell 38,227]

This is a good replacement Paul.

https://www.grainger.com/product/39UK43?cm_mmc=PPC:+MSN+PLA&gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:MS:CSM-2295:TVRYAD:20501231&s_kwcid=AL!2966!10!8973609940!1102900014563&ef_id=69bca50fc6b013fefb9bfa8ba48eb4bd:G:s