What have you done to your Wheel Horse today?

[953 nut 55,163]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Bath time!

Its about time you took a bath.........................................OH...............the Wheel Horses, not you..........................

[ebinmaine 67,397]

4 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

Its about time you took a bath.........................................OH...............the Wheel Horses, not you..........................

 

 

NOT ME!!!

 

It isn't even close to spring yet.  

[Wheelhorse#1 1,656]

Spent some time going through the recently purchased c-101 8 .

Drained trans, and a half gallon of water drained out before the  gear oil.

Went over the k241 and got it running ,needs some maint  items  one being shaker plate mounts but runs great 👍 

 

Is that the dreaded green paint of a JD I see 

 

 

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,397]

3 minutes ago, Wheelhorse#1 said:

one being shaker plate mounts

Switch to solid. 

[Wheelhorse#1 1,656]

Just now, ebinmaine said:

Switch to solid. 

Yea Sir just ordered a set 👍 

[Handy Don 12,204]

I had a 400 hour 518-H Eaton 700 hydro tractor where the pump/motor had died from PO abuse. I merged the engine and many other bits of it with a more recent 520-H chassis and the rest has been parted to other uses.

The last big piece was the transaxle minus the pump/motor. I’ve torn that down to retrieve the hubs, 8-pinion differential, and axles as potential spares. The diff and axle bearings are all in fine shape--does it make sense to try to extract any of them? How?

I’ve also got the gears and brake shaft which look nearly pristine--the brake drum is badly rusted.

[ebinmaine 67,397]

23 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

I had a 400 hour 518-H Eaton 700 hydro tractor where the pump/motor had died from PO abuse. I merged the engine and many other bits of it with a more recent 520-H chassis and the rest has been parted to other uses.

The last big piece was the transaxle minus the pump/motor. I’ve torn that down to retrieve the hubs, 8-pinion differential, and axles as potential spares. The diff and axle bearings are all in fine shape--does it make sense to try to extract any of them? How?

I’ve also got the gears and brake shaft which look nearly pristine--the brake drum is badly rusted.

 

 

As you know I'm not that familiar with the '80s and newer stuff. I would think if the bearings are good, it would make sense to save them.

 

I have a driver kit that I use for the wheel bearing sometimes or, a correct size closet pole. It can be tough to save those because driving them out tends to crush the ends.

 

I wonder if the case of that would be the same as a case for something else like a Sundstrand or the Eaton 1100? Never seen them Side by side.

 

If no one else speaks up for that and you don't want to hang on to it, you're welcome to leave it with me this saturday.

[kpinnc 11,985]

36 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

The diff and axle bearings are all in fine shape--does it make sense to try to extract any of them?

 

I don't think the bearings are the same OD as the ones in a manual transmission. If I recall correctly they are slightly larger. 

 

But between a 700-series and 1100, the gearbox (transaxle per the manual) is identical. This rule is broken only on a 520-HC that has a slightly larger input gear on the pump. All others an adapter plate is used to mount the smaller 700 pump, and the return hydraulic lines are plugged. 

Edited September 4 by kpinnc

[ebinmaine 67,397]

59 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

 

I don't think the bearings are the same OD as the ones in a manual transmission. If I recall correctly they are slightly larger. 

 

But between a 700-series and 1100, the gearbox (transaxle per the manual) is identical. This rule is broken only on a 520-HC that has a slightly larger input gear on the pump. All others an adapter plate is used to mount the smaller 700 pump, and the return hydraulic lines are plugged. 

 

 

@Handy Don

 

 

Given the above info... I'd be interested in having the spare parts. 

Up to you. No worries. 

[Handy Don 12,204]

46 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

I don't think the bearings are the same OD as the ones in a manual transmission. If I recall correctly they are slightly larger. 

But between a 700-series and 1100, the gearbox (transaxle per the manual) is identical. This rule is broken only on a 520-HC that has a slightly larger input gear on the pump. All others an adapter plate is used to mount the smaller 700 pump, and the return hydraulic lines are plugged. 

Thanks. I’m betting the diff and axle bearings are “standard” since a unique diff housing would seem unnecessary and the axle is the usual 1-⅛” -- but ya never know!

 

I was hoping that someone might use the transaxle intact (without the 700 adaptor) so I posted the parts tractor in the classifieds and in the run-up thread to the Big Show but no takers. Hence, torn down. 

I was able to easily and smoothly remove the bearing on the brake shaft using a bearing setting tool. The axle and reduction gear needle bearings are probably not removable without damage due to the way they are seated, but the big (pricey) ball bearings at the diff?  I’m gonna bring the casing to my friendly mechanic shop and see what he says.

The axles themselves are surely different from the 6- and 8-speeds, as they are substantially unequal lengths.

[ebinmaine 67,397]

12 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

but the big (pricey) ball bearings at the diff?  I’m gonna bring the casing to my friendly mechanic shop and see what he says

 

 

I've never tried to take those out of an automatic so take this with a grain of salt.

Neat little trick that I learned from Lincoln at A to Z Tractor in PA. 

 

I have used a 3/4 diameter bolt or threaded rod with a washer sized so that it fits just barely through the center hole. Must be a hair under 1 1/8?

 

If you put a nut, the washer, and another nut. Tighten it all up. You now have a flange on a stick, so to speak. You can get that washer stuck in behind the bearing and use it as a driving point. Works slick.

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,314]

  Discovered this “weak spot” has let go on my 414-8 today. 
  One side is cracked and the other is busted with a chunk out. 

 

 

 

 

[953 nut 55,163]

17 minutes ago, Sparky said:

“weak spot” has let go on my 414-8 today. 
  One side is cracked and the other is busted with a chunk out.

Had that problem on my 418-c, solved it by buying a fender support from a 520.

[Handy Don 12,204]

1 hour ago, Sparky said:

  Discovered this “weak spot” has let go on my 414-8 today. 

I might have one of those off a 500. I’ll look tomorrow.

[ebinmaine 67,397]

1 hour ago, Sparky said:

  Discovered this “weak spot” has let go on my 414-8 today. 
  One side is cracked and the other is busted with a chunk out. 

 

 

 

We helped that on the Workhorse by adding BIG fender washers. 

[ebinmaine 67,397]

The BBT got her first restoration Pony out for a ride tonight. 

Swapped batteries from another tractor. 

Added some oil and gas. 

Replaced a bolt holding the solenoid we'd added years ago. 

 

Then went for a short cruise before we loaded up for Jim's. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Pullstart 62,831]

BBT 

[ebinmaine 67,397]

2 hours ago, Pullstart said:

BBT 

 

She says hi Pullstart 

[Handy Don 12,204]

15 hours ago, Handy Don said:

I might have one of those off a 500. I’ll look tomorrow.

@Sparky

Found this in my pile this morning. I could bring it to @JCM’s M&G?

 

[JCM 9,130]

@Handy Don   ,   @Sparky  Will be unable to attend the M & G This year.      First one he's missed. We will miss our Trail Boss for the ride.

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,314]

3 hours ago, Handy Don said:

@Sparky

Found this in my pile this morning. I could bring it to @JCM’s M&G?

 

 Thanks Don, I have that part and it’s fine. It’s the two rails that it bolts to that have cracked/rusted and broken. 

 

 

[lynnmor 7,303]

21 hours ago, 953 nut said:

Had that problem on my 418-c, solved it by buying a fender support from a 520.

Note that the 520 part uses the two console cover screws in addition to the current ones.  The cover on console cover on the 520's have a jog in them to allow for the additional height, washers or spacers will be needed.  I had the same breakage on my 1991 520H because it was made before the update.  I think that the 520C models had the improvement and all 520's made from 1992 and up had the update.  For my 1991 I bought both the updated seat support and the console cover plus I added reinforcement under the break after it was welded.

[953 nut 55,163]

Today I remover the dozer blade from the 418-C and installed the leaf blower in preparation for the annual deluge of leaves we have. When I built the blower I used an eight inch round air duct elbow to direct the air flow but replaced it with a shorter rectangular sheet metal piece. Works as well and doesn't stick out nearly as far.

[Steve Janninck 171]

Working on a little magnetic flag holder for the 414-8 hood. A few more tweaks and I think this will work perfectly!

[Wheelhorse#1 1,656]

Breaking down the new to me C-101 .Flushed the gear case with diesel twice .Removed break band ,needs to be replaced.

Tomorrow the rest comes apart.The fun has just begun