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26 minutes ago, BavariaPJ said:

I have 550 hrs

Barely broken in.      A 520H with chains and the two stage blower is the ultimate snow removal machine.    If you don't need it for snow removal, sell the two stage blower and put the mowing deck on.  Do you have the 48 or 60" deck?

 

10 minutes ago, BavariaPJ said:

. It surges at mid throttle and I am told that injectors are gunked 

Don't take it to the person that told you this.    You P220 ONAN engine is not fuel injected.     Surging is a common problem that is usually caused by a dirty carburetor or air leaking into the manifold seam.     An easy fix for a good mechanic.

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BavariaPJ

It has a 48" mowing deck and I have wheel weights on it and the set of chains.  i do not know the size of the two stage snowblower I bought with it.  Will plugs make it surge or is most likely carb related?  Going add fuel preservative and run it to see if that cleans it to stop the surging

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BavariaPJ

Appreciate all the responses on this. As I said, it sat for past 5 years in barn and I put new battery in yesterday.  Started immediately and just has some surging at lower RPM's. Thank you 

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BavariaPJ
8 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Barely broken in.      A 520H with chains and the two stage blower is the ultimate snow removal machine.    If you don't need it for snow removal, sell the two stage blower and put the mowing deck on.  Do you have the 48 or 60" deck?

 

Don't take it to the person that told you this.    You P220 ONAN engine is not fuel injected.     Surging is a common problem that is usually caused by a dirty carburetor or air leaking into the manifold seam.     An easy fix for a good mechanic.

I would sell the snowblower, I have not used it in 15 years.  Any idea on its value?

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cafoose

Working on my 953 sickle bar project today. Slowing down the speed so not to grenade the wobble box. How's this for slowing it down? 3.25 inches on the PTO and 8.5 inches on the driven shaft :lol: The pulley I got from amazon didn't have set screws so I had to get a longer bit from amazon to drill and tap for set screws. The belt I need measured to be 43 inches and that's coming Tuesday.

 

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Ed Kennell
2 hours ago, BavariaPJ said:

Any idea on its value?

Location, condition and need determines value.   In a high altitude snow area, a good used two stage will bring $500+.                   I saw a Steiner blower in fair condition bring $900 at an auction last week.

Check your local sale sites for similar blowers.

 

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ebinmaine
31 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

, a good used two stage will bring $500+. 

 

Seconded. 

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lynnmor
2 hours ago, BavariaPJ said:

Im not much of a mechanic.  I would like them to go over everything on it since it had been sitting for 5 years in the barn. It surges at mid throttle and I am told that injectors are gunked up. How would you address that? Will putting gas treatment in tank and just letting it run awhile, clean that up?  i did take the air cleaner off and sprayed the butterfly with carb cleaner but its still surging.  Again, If I could avoid the cost of a dealer tune up and loading it up on trailer and doing it myself, I would

There are no "injectors" so avoid that "mechanic."   Drain the fuel tank and fuel lines, replace the grommet in the bottom of the fuel tank and clean or replace the shutoff valve, replace the 1/4" rubber hoses with ethanol resistant hose.  Replace the fuel filter.  Use fresh gasoline when ready to start.  Spraying the butterfly will do exactly nothing, spraying carburetor cleaner down the five holes around the the air filter mounting can help.  Keep in mind that anything sprayed in the carburetor might find its way into the oil, you may have already contaminated the oil necessitating an immediate oil change.  Fresh oil goes into the crankcase and fresh gasoline goes in the fuel tank, no snake oil should be used other than a bit of cleaner mentioned above.  After running it for some time and the surging continues calls for more work.  The most likely issue is gum, dirt or corrosion inside the carburetor and the only way to clean it right is to remove it and that entails some work since the exhaust and intake needs to come off.  Before pulling the carburetor, spray WD40 around the split in the intake manifold while the engine is running to see if there is any effect.  Also look for a missing welch plug just above the idle mixture screw.

 

Download the Onan Service Manual for all the information you need.  The welch plug can be seen in figure 2 on page 7-2 just above the idle fuel limiter cap.  While the intake is off would be a good time to adjust the valves, I would bet that it was never done.  As you go along, report back here for more information.  Yes, there is some normal maintenance to be performed and once done should give years of life to the tractor.

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953 nut
8 hours ago, BavariaPJ said:

Not sure if I'll trade it in on JD

:no:            :angry-tappingfoot:                        :no:

:WRS:

I don't think a 1992 Wheel Horse is old, in fact I don't have any that new.  With proper upkeep and service it will be going strong for years to come. One suggestion for the fuel surging problem would be to add some Seafoam Gas treatment at double the recommended rate for a couple of tanks-full  and be sure to always use non-ethanol gas.  That E-10 junk will harm the fuel system. This site will help you find REAL gas in your area.  https://www.pure-gas.org/

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mrc

hello c-series don,

 

fantasic blackhood!!!

 

regards

mike

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ebinmaine
6 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

 

I don't think a 1992 Wheel Horse is old, in fact I don't have any that new.   

 

@BavariaPJ

 

Agreed. 

We run several from the 60s and 70s. 

 

92 is a "newfangled" one. 

 

:lol:

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Ed Kennell
6 hours ago, BavariaPJ said:

  Will plugs make it surge or is most likely carb related?  

Surging is fuel /air related.

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cafoose

Got the sickle mounted :banana-wrench: Is it supposed to ride on the ground or do I need to raise the frame somehow? Looks like the lift lever mounted to the sickle is too sloppy to lift the bar in the last two pictures. Any suggestions how to fix it? Also, do I need to hook up the hydraulic lift to it? If so, how can I do it?

 

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Tractorhead

 

There are no "injectors" so avoid that "mechanic."  

 

100% second that.

It sounds to me he‘s not any kind of mechanic, he’s just a Seller or an extrem young (less than 30 years old) „industrial wrencher“

they don‘t learn how to fix things, they learn how to sale lot‘s of unneeded parts to solve a 2$ fix.

 

 

 

@lynnmor suggestions be the way to go.

 

Even if you never worked on a wheelhorse before, everybody can learn everything.

so even you can learn to do the basic maintaining on your Wheelhorse.

it is no Witchcraft, it‘s just bit of Work and willing to solve that and the help from this Forum

you be quicker finished By yourself than this Seller can write the Bill.

 

ok a two sided lefthander has it lill bit more complicated to learn things, but it is possibly.

 

 

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pfrederi
10 hours ago, cafoose said:

Got the sickle mounted :banana-wrench: Is it supposed to ride on the ground or do I need to raise the frame somehow? Looks like the lift lever mounted to the sickle is too sloppy to lift the bar in the last two pictures. Any suggestions how to fix it? Also, do I need to hook up the hydraulic lift to it? If so, how can I do it?

 

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Sickles run on the ground the inner shoe and outer shoe have some adjustment (not much) to get cutting heights

 

The implement lift (left side) handle raises the whole unit a few inches. then you can pull the cutter bar all the way up and hook it to the hood stand for transit.

 

The unit I have sold to pullstart was rigged to raise the cutter bar hydraulically.  Not the same as the implement lift that brings the whole unit up off the ground ..That was still manual and took some effort...

 

Some pics on the closed for sale add

 

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BavariaPJ

Actually never sold anything on social media sites or otherwise.  Frankly, I have never had to fix anything on my Wheelhorse with the exception of oil changes, transmission fluids and plug changes. I do have blades sharpened every other year. I have cleaned carb's but not an expert and do not know how to tune them.  My comment on injectors was reference to the spring valves or jets, not fuel injectors.  Regardless, this has sat in the barn and I just want to make sure it continues to work for me.  Greasing zerks and tune up is sill something I will have done.  Will also run the Seafoam to see if that rectifies the surging.  Will also list the 2 stage blower for what was recommended on here to be worth around $4-500..thank you all for the feedback

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ebinmaine
11 minutes ago, BavariaPJ said:

Actually never sold anything on social media sites or otherwise.  Frankly, I have never had to fix anything on my Wheelhorse with the exception of oil changes, transmission fluids and plug changes. I do have blades sharpened every other year. I have cleaned carb's but not an expert and do not know how to tune them.  My comment on injectors was reference to the spring valves or jets, not fuel injectors.  Regardless, this has sat in the barn and I just want to make sure it continues to work for me.  Greasing zerks and tune up is sill something I will have done.  Will also run the Seafoam to see if that rectifies the surging.  Will also list the 2 stage blower for what was recommended on here to be worth around $4-500..thank you all for the feedback

 

 

 

This group is a great bunch of folks.  

 

Keep asking questions. 

Keep trying minor and larger repairs and maintenance.  

 

We'll all help you out. 

 

 

My Other Half and I knew approximately next to nothing about Wheelhorses 7 or 8 years ago. 

Thanks to all the people on this website we've now done full frame off restorations on 5 tractors and partially restored or rebuilt several other tractors. 

 

 

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ML3
On 6/7/2024 at 1:26 PM, BavariaPJ said:

I would sell the snowblower, I have not used it in 15 years.  Any idea on its value?

I'd love to have that setup! I really want a 520 & 2 stage

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ebinmaine
1 hour ago, ML3 said:

I'd love to have that setup! I really want a 520 & 2 stage

 

I'm pretty excited to try a Two Stage Tall Chute on my C160 Automatic next winter. 

 

 

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Goldnboy

Did some painting yesterday! 

I used the new high flow setting on cans that have choice of 5 settings.

Plus I painted the fronts too.

And put primer on the tins..

 

Going to let in bake in the 90s several days this week.

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squonk
52 minutes ago, Goldnboy said:

Did some painting yesterday! 

I used the new high flow setting on cans that have choice of 5 settings.

Plus I painted the fronts too.

And put primer on the tins..

 

Going to let in bake in the 90s several days this week.

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You could have sprayed Chrystal Clear right over the last coat of red while it was still wet. Dries fast and retains the shine

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Goldnboy
44 minutes ago, squonk said:

You could have sprayed Chrystal Clear right over the last coat of red while it was still wet. Dries fast and retains the shine

Last time I tried a clear coat the paint wrinkled on me!

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squonk

I've sprayed dozens of items with Rustoleum Regal Red and sprayed the clear right over the wet final coat. Never an issue.

 

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johnnymag3
On 6/7/2024 at 1:15 PM, ebinmaine said:

 

 

There are no injectors on that

 

 

NO INJECTORS !!!!!!  :) 

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