What have you done to your Wheel Horse today?

[Snoopy11 5,714]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Like them inner n outer... 

True, but he hasn't done the stud conversion, looks like he is still using the lug bolts... so with all that weight and trying to play peg in the hole... Mike must have arms like a gorilla...

 

Don

[ebinmaine 67,565]

3 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

True, but he hasn't done the stud conversion, looks like he is still using the lug bolts... so with all that weight and trying to play peg in the hole... Mike must have arms like a gorilla...

 

Don

Yeah. Him strong 

[Tuneup 1,433]

1 hour ago, Sparky said:

Got all the weights mounted up on the 308…one step closer to being a snowplow tractor. 
 

 

Got a good source for those weights or were they just laying around? The anti-freeze in the rears just isn't enough.

 

[ebinmaine 67,565]

7 minutes ago, Tuneup said:

 

Got a good source for those weights or were they just laying around? The anti-freeze in the rears just isn't enough.

 

We have some here too. Trina uses them on the inside of Millie's wheels.

IIRC they are IHC Cub stackable weights that can be used on the front of some tractors and the rears of others.

 

[Ed Kennell 38,200]

2 hours ago, Sparky said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks great Mike,  but that twist in that cross chain is buggin me.     Could ya fix that so I can sleep tonight.

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,321]

1 hour ago, Tuneup said:

 

Got a good source for those weights or were they just laying around? The anti-freeze in the rears just isn't enough.

 

  They are International Harvester weights commonly found on the front of the larger tractors. But the holes line up perfectly with our 12” rear wheels and the hole in the weight fits right over the hub.  
  You can see them mounted on the front wheels in the pics. 
  I usually pay about $100 a pair.

 

 

 

[mrc 812]

hello brockport bill,   

   years ago i put a brand new plow on my SIL's C160.   i posted pics of that.  it was the newer style with the cable.  i had problems with the cable (could not get it tight enough) and retrofitted it back to the older 'coat hanger' wire system.   you gotta go with what you know.  his plow and my plow rarely come off the tractors. one reason i did that was i figured over time the cable would stretch.  the coat hanger never stretches.  does not freeze up with snow and ice on it either.   best of luck to you  

 

regards

mike in mass.

 

 

[Brockport Bill 1,667]

4 hours ago, mrc said:

hello brockport bill,   

   years ago i put a brand new plow on my SIL's C160.   i posted pics of that.  it was the newer style with the cable.  i had problems with the cable (could not get it tight enough) and retrofitted it back to the older 'coat hanger' wire system.   you gotta go with what you know.  his plow and my plow rarely come off the tractors. one reason i did that was i figured over time the cable would stretch.  the coat hanger never stretches.  does not freeze up with snow and ice on it either.   best of luck to you  

 

regards

mike in mass.

 

 

i look forward to seeing how your insights play out re: how the plow cable works versus the "wire" -- thanks Mike for sharing your experience - Bill

[Wheelhorse#1 1,666]

On 11/20/2022 at 6:49 PM, Achto said:

Spent the morning getting my snow equipment ready. Oil changes, new wear bar on the plow & every thing greased up.

 

 

The rest of the gang got prepped for hibernation.

 

Bring on winter!!                I guess....  

 

 

 

 

Nice ! interesting head lights. What are they called ? Thats one clean machine !

[Achto 27,597]

1 hour ago, Wheelhorse#1 said:

Nice ! interesting head lights. What are they called ? Thats one clean machine !

 

Thank you.  The lights are 2" mini halogen driving lights. They are bright, I like the looks of them & they are inexpensive. Note: the bulbs can be replaced with LED which are just as bright and available at most hardware stores or Menards in the 12v interior lighting section. 

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/162222135157?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1HDMZ-lc3TZiK9EXWaZp5VQ42&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=162222135157&targetid=1644837435483&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9019452&poi=&campaignid=16743749222&mkgroupid=138744546207&rlsatarget=pla-1644837435483&abcId=9300842&merchantid=101685322&gclid=CjwKCAiAyfybBhBKEiwAgtB7fhJWpIkb1y6T9-vXq0U5HoqEuOhDyhRtAP__cwnsKZWO9PZLMtmVhxoClVUQAvD_BwE

 

 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Achto

[WHX?? 48,828]

1 hour ago, Achto said:

. They are bright, I like the looks of them & they are inexpensive.

I'll second that...

I replaced the bases with nifty angled washers that Dan gave me. They are for getting a nut or bolt to lay flat on c or angle iron. 

[AMC RULES 37,130]

 

Took a couple hours today to blow apart 64yrs of W-H assemblage using only hand tools and a liberal application of Pb blaster.

Will say, you gotta want it though!

 

 

Edited November 24, 2022 by AMC RULES

[Wheelhorse#1 1,666]

5 hours ago, WHX?? said:

I'll second that...

I replaced the bases with nifty angled washers that Dan gave me. They are for getting a nut or bolt to lay flat on c or angle iron. 

 

[Wheelhorse#1 1,666]

I like the look, low profile.Where you installed them is a perfect location.They just look like they belong

[Blasterdad 2,692]

Got the C-161 in the shop today for her winter maintainance in preparation for her new snow cab.

New battery, new fuel lines & filter, fresh rec gas & oil change.

Swapped a front wheel for one that holds air, stole the adjustable seat off the 417 & fixed one of the slide mounts & greased it up.

I was planning on pulling the side cover & putting on the solid engine mounts until I totally destroyed myself with turkey & pie. 

Oh well, happy Thanksgiving everyone! 

 

[ebinmaine 67,565]

My 75 C160 Automatic has a VERY loose engine piston. 

Rather than let it run to catastrophic failure I'd rather swap it out and get it rebuilt. 

 

I'd been figuring my  best option I had here is the KT17 on a 417A. 

Got that 417A and the C160 Auto in the basement workshop. 

 

 

Did some measurements. 

It would be possible to use that twin engine but would take some serious sheet metal mods along with moving the battery and rewiring.  

 

 

Trina and I talked over our viable and easier options. 

 

 

Best bet for now is to swap the engine outta Cinnamon Horse C160-8 and send another K341 in for rebuild. 

 

 

 

 

[cafoose 3,355]

Finally got to look at my 10hp C-160 piston to piston hydro today. The tow valve is in front and has a screwdriver slot on it. I couldn't get it to budge so I sprayed Kroil on it the past several days. I have a small 6 inch pipe wrench. 

I slowly worked it back and forth until it finally freed up It was closed until today so I think I need to follow through with the suggestions in my thread to solve the problem.

 

 

[Thor27 767]

@ebinmaine What is wrong with the 417A?  That thing looks pretty complete and should be a beast.   

[ebinmaine 67,565]

1 minute ago, Thor27 said:

@ebinmaine What is wrong with the 417A?  That thing looks pretty complete and should be a beast.   

It is complete. That's a project tractor for the future. 

The KT17 would have gone back to it had I borrowed the engine. 

 

 

[Ed Kennell 38,200]

10 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

 

 

Hey, that looks like a smaller version of the Alaska  Stove that's been heating my house for 60 years.

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,565]

19 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Hey, that looks like a smaller version of the Alaska  Stove that's been heating my house for 60 years.

 

It's a late 70s Fisher Papa Bear. 

That's a prize possession up here in wood burning country! 

🪵🪵🪵🪵

 

Likely same size or even larger but long and narrower. 

Takes a 32" stick if you're so inclined.  

[peter lena 8,632]

@Brockport Bill  looked at your lever set up with interest , think most w/h  linkage set ups  are very basic , but desperately  need functional detailing , had best experience  on plow set up on  milk crates , so its totally  suspended , like it was hanging under the tractor . then roller stool around it , and see what it needs to be better . how about dielectric grease on every movement point ?  have also used pneumatic tubing for cable slide enhancement . washer up sloppy end / start points , so they are smooth and solid . get after the steering quadrant , spring pressured slide pin area , use  red aerosol  spray grease , extension tube , pop off the access covers on quadrant , that  blade swing can / should be  swinging / moving with little effort . control arm lever # 4 , should have minimal play , to enhance response . just some things that I  have done , no implied poor job or  sarcasm , it just kept getting easier  with every detail , pete      

[peter lena 8,632]

@Blasterdad  looking at your 161 baseline set up , that hydro set up on the blower is the deal , check out the pto , drive set up to the blower , typically neglected dry / rough movement areas , that belt / pulley frame , moves much better with red grease in the swing holes , also check out the Idler pulleys , rust rust / roughness , the easier they move / drive the faster your blower spins  also get some chain lubricant on that  auger drive  chain , 1/2 "  deflection  on setting , never let mine dry out . also lubricate the pto lever rod set up , starts next to battery , ground frame lower edge , washer it up and grease , enhances lever action . that ground frame is also a great  tractor , electrical  grounding  bolt on cable source , to engine / electrical , points . what I  just told you is , just some of the baseline stuff , that my 3 horses have .  look at it with opportunity , pete  

[Lane Ranger 10,968]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

 

It's a late 70s Fisher Papa Bear. 

That's a prize possession up here in wood burning country! 

🪵🪵🪵🪵

 

Likely same size or even larger but long and narrower. 

Takes a 32" stick if you're so inclined.  

 

We had the Mama Bear Fisher in our first house in Owen County, Indiana back in late 70's and early 1980's.

 

That was best stove I have ever used or seen.  I cut on a big beech tree for three years for wood.  Beech is a tight white wood that was plentiful in Indiana forests ( several clothes pin factories used it exclusively in 1920's).

 

Our home was made by a carpenter who put insulation under floors held up with chicken wire.  House had electric heat in ceiling which we never used.  All windows were double pane and everything highly insulated  

 

Believe it or not, we had to keep our bedroom window slightly open in the winter due to heat from that Fisher stove.  I could put three logs from a

the beech tree in the stove before going to bed and I would still have hot coals left in stove in early am.  
 

The Fisher stoves were well made and easy to keep clean. No blower fan on that stove as the radiant heat permitted the house. 
 

 

These stoves are not ceap !  Currently  selling for about $2500.

Edited November 25, 2022 by Lane Ranger

[ebinmaine 67,565]

14 minutes ago, Lane Ranger said:

best stove I have ever used or seen. 

a big beech tree

Absolutely agreed. 

In fact we know some off grid folks who have a stove like you picture upstairs and one like ours in their basement. 

 

Beech is our main staple for sure. Our forest is about 70-80% beech. 

Burns excellent. Easily sustainable because it regrows well on its own. 

A huge Advantage to beech is that it can be used faster than most hardwoods. Around here it's fully seasoned in 4 or 5 months.