kpinnc 12,031 #14001 Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Snoopy11 said: You aren't much taller than it... I thought he was standing on a box or something, but wasn't gonna say anything. Edited December 19, 2021 by kpinnc 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,659 #14002 Posted December 19, 2021 The hydro axle housings are 1/8" larger then the 8 speed. Wheel Horse added a spacer bracket to their axle hitches. If Eric built his hitch to fit tight on an 8 speed It will not fit a hydro with out elongating the holes. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,497 #14003 Posted December 19, 2021 8 hours ago, Snoopy11 said: By the way @ebinmaine... that Horse there is so beautiful. That color is, just perfect. The gloss is like a mirror! Don It's good paint. I'd agree. The surface prep on the other hand leaves some to be desired. There wasn't any. I'd sure like to know what the paint is.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,497 #14004 Posted December 19, 2021 6 hours ago, oliver2-44 said: I wasn’t aware any mods were required 8speed vs automatic. What did you have to do to it? 3 hours ago, Lee1977 said: The hydro axle housings are 1/8" larger then the 8 speed. Wheel Horse added a spacer bracket to their axle hitches. If Eric built his hitch to fit tight on an 8 speed It will not fit a hydro with out elongating the holes. Lee is correct. I bought this hitch Off the fleabay a couple years ago. Purpose was twofold. I wanted to be able to use a receiver hitch and also needed to move the plow blade forward to clear my oversized 20 x 8 x 8 tires. I made up a mating plow bracket from a 7" long piece of an old Wheelhorse frame. At the time we had only manual transmission tractors. As @Lee1977 says the axle square tube is smaller on sticks than on Automatics. I made the bracket extra long compared to stock location after I had gotten some spacers for vertically mounted brackets from @WVHillbilly520H and liked the more downward position of the rear plow mount. (raises the front for better ground clearance). I also had to notch the bracket today to clear the left side of the hydro (pump?). I kept the upper holes of the bracket where I had them and expanded the lower holes so the mount position would stay the same height. @Snoopy11 and @Thor27. The plow blade is the 61" wide monster creation of one Mr @wallfish. I ran it a bit last year. It worked well but I kissed a rock at the side and dinged it up some. A few months ago I had ordered a VERY heavy duty 60" cutting edge for a skidsteer. The cutting edge alone is about the same weight as the rest of the plow. Got that mounted up and ran a bead of weld down the side blade attachment points. Yesterday I finished cleaning up the welds and had The Paint Department throw some Rust-Oleum 2X Apple Red at the front side of it. 7 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
war eagle 80 #14005 Posted December 19, 2021 I'm always looking new ways and excuses to use the Wheel Horse. Made a cheap and easy garbage can hauler using a 36" water meter tool from Home Depot. Works great taking the can to the street on pick up days or driving around the yard picking up pine cones, limbs,etc. 7 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #14006 Posted December 19, 2021 Had to change out one of my snow horses (low impact plow tractor). Scheduled tractor is on loan to my brother. Set up an Electro 16 to fill in (overkill on power and fuel consumption). Then realized the big muffler I adapted to work with the Magnum 16 and clear the hood interfered with the blade angle lever. So quick substitute with a different muffler will be noisier but she won't get many hours. 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,497 #14007 Posted December 19, 2021 Cleaned up after a decent snowfall today. 6.25 inches give or take. First time using the C160 Automatic for it's intended purpose. Plowing!! The circled area on the brown tarp is a 417A trying to get out so it can have a rebuild. 5 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #14008 Posted December 19, 2021 Lot faster than the 8 speeds!! Like the chains 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,497 #14009 Posted December 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Lot faster than the 8 speeds!! Like the chains It sure is!! That was something Trina noticed right away. We were done a fair amount sooner than expected. I'm not sure if those are the chains I ran last year. When installing them I figured out that the cross chains line up exactly in between the bars of the AG tires. One chain. One space. That makes for a VERY good grip. Also helping traction is a LOT of weight. Hydro is heavier than an 8 speed and I added the two rear outside weights. This big plow and soft ground were having some challenges getting along. Careful usage of the control lever helped. I have a set of shoes I'll be installing. One thing I noticed about ¾ of the way through.... I was/am MUCH less fatigued than when using a manual transmission tractor. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #14010 Posted December 19, 2021 I told you once you go hydro for plowing it is hard to go back!!!! 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,174 #14011 Posted December 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Lot faster than the 8 speeds!! Hydros w/lift .....only way to plow. Then take it up another notch with a foot motion control. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,361 #14012 Posted December 19, 2021 If you are using a snowblower on a hydro it saves a lot on the arm, lifting that blower. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,497 #14013 Posted December 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, pfrederi said: I told you once you go hydro for plowing it is hard to go back!!!! You may very well be right. 6 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: foot motion control I've been processing that thought too. Could be a future addition. 2 minutes ago, rjg854 said: If you are using a 60" PLOW on a hydro it saves a lot on the arm, lifting that blower. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,557 #14014 Posted December 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, pfrederi said: I told you once you go hydro for plowing it is hard to go back!!!! 3 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: Hydros w/lift .....only way to plow. Then take it up another notch with a foot motion control. Meh… Reducing seat time is contrary to the Code of ethics… Article 1. Chapter 1. Though shalt spend maximum time upon your Wheel Horse. 1 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,497 #14015 Posted December 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: Meh… Reducing seat time is contrary to the Code of ethics… Article 1. Chapter 1. Though shalt spend maximum time upon your Wheel Horse. For the most part I agree. I must say though that spending time on a tractor is a tad less amusing when it's in the teens outside with a breeze. 🥶 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whtractors24 3,116 #14016 Posted December 19, 2021 Cleaned these tires up and soaking them on 303 protectant . (Sigh) wish I had a 55 for them . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,557 #14017 Posted December 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: For the most part I agree. I must say though that spending time on a tractor is a tad less amusing when it's in the teens outside with a breeze. 🥶 Most part…? Hhhmmm… A Haiku response is in order… Wheel Horses don’t care What the ambient air temp Ride hard warm or cold 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #14018 Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, ebinmaine said: First time using the C160 Automatic for it's intended purpose. Plowing!! OH THE VIDEO!!! We are not worthy I'd love to be out there with you, doing doughnuts with HellHorse Don 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,306 #14019 Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, ebinmaine said: When installing them I figured out that the cross chains line up exactly in between the bars of the AG tires. One chain. One space. That makes for a VERY good grip. Also helping traction is a LOT of weight. Hydro is heavier than an 8 speed and I added the two rear outside weights. The engine sounds like you have reached the maximum horsepower. Are you running at maximum throttle? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #14020 Posted December 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: OH THE VIDEO!!! If we ever get snow here... I'll be making a video of my plowing... As mentioned previously on the forum... my driveway is REALLY LOOOONNNNGGGGG.... so I will be out in the elements for a while... Don 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,497 #14021 Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, lynnmor said: The engine sounds like you have reached the maximum horsepower. Are you running at maximum throttle? Good ear! No, at that point I didn't have the RPM up enough. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #14022 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ebinmaine said: Also helping traction is a LOT of weight. I've got a question for you guys. I am wondering if I need weight on my horse? I just got wheel spacers and chains... ya'll think I could 'get by' without weight? I know that... when we get snow here in Indiana, it dumps 6+ inches... Thanks! Don Edited December 20, 2021 by Snoopy11 fat fingers on keyboard... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #14023 Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, ebinmaine said: Good ear! I am in the room with lot's of other people, so I watched it on mute... Hey... you know I couldn't wait to watch until I was alone... Don 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,497 #14024 Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said: I've got a question for you guys. I am wondering I need weight on my horse? I just got wheel spacers and chains... ya'll think I could 'get by' without weight? I know that... when we get snow here in Indiana, it dumps 6+ inches... Thanks! Don Technics vary. I've tried to use less or none. Here I CAN'T plow without a LOT of weight. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,306 #14025 Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Snoopy11 said: I've got a question for you guys. I am wondering if I need weight on my horse? I just got wheel spacers and chains... ya'll think I could 'get by' without weight? Don On my plow tractor, I run 75 lb wheel weights on each rear with no chains, it does fine pushing a 48” plow. On my snowblower tractor I run the same weights with rubber chains. I like to travel rather fast plowing and chains just slow me down. Everyone’s situation is different, hills, surface, snow type, etc. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites