Lane Ranger 10,992 #1 Posted July 27, 2017 This three piece transmssionnis on a Wheel Horse Suburban. Anyone seen a later dtae on a three piece transmission case than 5/63 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tims tractors 119 #2 Posted July 27, 2017 It almost looks like 5-53. Tim 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R. L. Addison 299 #3 Posted July 27, 2017 I see 5-53 also. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,189 #4 Posted July 27, 2017 I'm seein 63.....Could it be possible they were still trying to fill orders from '62? That's awful far into 63. Let's check with Steve @stevasaurus 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,820 #5 Posted July 27, 2017 I thought that the 3 piece was done in '61. Educate me if I'm wrong please. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,875 #7 Posted July 27, 2017 I'm guessing that was a replacement case or complete transmission 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACman 7,621 #8 Posted July 27, 2017 I also see a 63 . I know the ponds were frugal but I assume they had to still make replacement parts for inventory 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,881 #9 Posted July 27, 2017 That is not what their casting dates usually look like. They should look like K11%0 which would equate to September 11, 1960. Those numbers are certainly in the right place though. If that is a casting date, it would have to be 63 and I think Oliver (Jim) is right. Maybe to produce some spare castings again for replacements...probably because the Hooby-Doobies were breaking off where the side plate bolts go. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 10,992 #10 Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) It looked like 53 to me also but I knew there was no such thing at that time! But 63 seemed to be a lot longer manufacturing date than I ever recall! Replacement parts must be the situation! Edited July 27, 2017 by Lane Ranger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,189 #11 Posted July 27, 2017 Agree Lane but if they were last used in 61??... well maybe they WERE breaking a lot of the hoobies in '62 Steve is breaking now so they had to start casting them again in 63?? Steve was your dad working on 3 piecers back then? OR ...could they have sourcing them out to another manufacturer? I have seen them on other brands??? Then they changed the date codes just to say lets #*&% with them guys in 2017.... So many questions so few answers! Fire up yer time machine and let us know when you get back! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,881 #12 Posted July 27, 2017 My Dad's oldest horse was a 1962, so he never owned a 3 piece. I'm thinking that they had to keep replacement parts for a number of years...and these were not the best transmissions. They made numerous changes inside during the 4 years that they used them, and they did make a lot of them. Lane, check and see if this has the part number #3501 cast into it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 10,992 #13 Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, stevasaurus said: My Dad's oldest horse was a 1962, so he never owned a 3 piece. I'm thinking that they had to keep replacement parts for a number of years...and these were not the best transmissions. They made numerous changes inside during the 4 years that they used them, and they did make a lot of them. Lane, check and see if this has the part number #3501 cast into it. The right side of the Suburban three piece transmission shows a different story! E 8 -9 So may be 1959 after all. Not sure what left side numbers meant! Also Steve the 3501 is still there barely! Here is another unusual one however. See the second photo. M18-8 on right side. Will do Steve! Edited July 28, 2017 by Lane Ranger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,189 #14 Posted July 28, 2017 Ahhh....The mystery deepens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,881 #15 Posted July 28, 2017 E8 - 9 would be May 8, 1959 M18 - 8 would be December 18, 1958 They did not use the letter "I" because it would look like a number...so "M" is December. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rj35hunter 283 #16 Posted July 30, 2017 Here is the date on a RJ58 I'm restoring and I'm pretty sure it's the original transmission and it's E4-9.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,881 #17 Posted July 30, 2017 That would be May 4, 1959. If your trans is original, I think you have an RJ59 there. The thought is the 58 and 59 RJs are the same...a 2 year production. A 58 transmission could be in a 59 RJ, but not the other way around...if original. @rj35hunter 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #18 Posted July 30, 2017 Have an F-6 with a '9 on this ol' timer here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #19 Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) The opposite end of the spectrum... showing a couple cases here with no date codes on 'em. Does that suggest these were early in the production run? Edited July 30, 2017 by AMC RULES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,084 #20 Posted July 30, 2017 2 hours ago, AMC RULES said: Does that suggest these were early in the production run? Exactly, the early ones did not have the cast numbers. An evidenced by the early round 3 hole hubs. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites