ARK 500 LOADER REBUILD ON A 522XI

[Blasterdad 2,692]

2 hours ago, Pullstart said:

I was just making dinner and playing with cylinder positions   YES, at the same time!

  

[Pullstart 62,849]

@Blasterdad I learned this trick with shock placement on a vehicle a long time ago.  Full compression of suspension and shock, make an arc.  Full extension of suspension and shock, make an intersecting arc.  That is where ideal shock mount placement is.  Well, I did the same here.  

 

 

 

 

 

I’m not sure if I want to cut apart the gussets on the inside of the brackets or not, so I’ll do the same with cardboard and the top side to see if there is any good placement with the existing bucket holes.

 

 

[Pullstart 62,849]

This is the same method I used for the rear shocks on my buggy.

 

 

[Pullstart 62,849]

It looks like I’ll have some welds to cut.  It just doesn’t make sense to have the cylinder so far away from the frame to find that intersection.

 

 

[Blasterdad 2,692]

It looks like my guess was pretty close, about 2". I didn't see that gusset behind it, that stinks.

Neat trick too, I do something similar measuring heel heights for rafters building houses. 

[Blasterdad 2,692]

7 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

It looks like I’ll have some welds to cut.  It just doesn’t make sense to have the cylinder so far away from the frame to find that intersection.

 

A couple of cutoff wheels & good to go, it wants to be where it wants to be.

The sparks will keep your dinner warm too if there's any left, Lol...

[Pullstart 62,849]

15 minutes ago, Blasterdad said:

 

A couple of cutoff wheels & good to go, it wants to be where it wants to be.

The sparks will keep your dinner warm too if there's any left, Lol...

Sawzall with a good carbide blade is my best friend on cuts like that!    We had deer and pig (bacon wrapped venison burger).  No leftovers!

[Pullstart 62,849]

One cut made.  I believe I can bend the gusset up and out of the way, then re-weld it.

 

 

[Blasterdad 2,692]

Just now, Pullstart said:

Sawzall with a good carbide blade is my best friend on cuts like that!    We had deer and pig (bacon wrapped venison burger).  No leftovers!

Once again...   

[Blasterdad 2,692]

2 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

One cut made.  I believe I can bend the gusset up and out of the way, then re-weld it.

 

[Pullstart 62,849]

I believe this’ll work!

 

 

[The Freightliner Guy 1,327]

Entertaining videos as always nice job 

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

8 hours ago, Pullstart said:

.  Full compression of suspension and shock, make an arc.  Full extension of suspension and shock, make an intersecting arc.  That is where ideal shock mount placement is

Excellent tip and excellent explaination in the video.

 

Keep in mind though that when you move the pivot point on the bucket 'inward' you get more movement but less 'break out' or 'scooping' power.

[Pullstart 62,849]

51 minutes ago, sjoemie himself said:

Excellent tip and excellent explaination in the video.

 

Keep in mind though that when you move the pivot point on the bucket 'inward' you get more movement but less 'break out' or 'scooping' power.

Yeah, I thought about that too Mark.  Somewhere I have to find a sweet spot.  Hopefully I’ll have enough juice from the 20 hp engine and overkill pump and valve to help overcome the change!

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

Only one way to find out 

[Pullstart 62,849]

Just now, sjoemie himself said:

Only one way to find out 

Put my kids in it and see if I can scoop ‘em?  

 

I have a nice sand pile behind the barn that’ll be ready for my testing.  I need to tube my tires or replace the fronts with some ribs too before too long.  I’m just waiting for the ability to lift the nose off the ground!  

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

1 minute ago, Pullstart said:

Put my kids in it and see if I can scoop ‘em?  

 

Sure! Just don't post that to YT 

[Pullstart 62,849]

You might be able to see, I’ve got 3 scribed lines.  The true intersection, it’s pretty tight to make it work still.  3/8” out, I could likely bring in a bushing.  1/2” out, it’ll clear just fine.  
 

My last loader, powered by an old pump, old valve, and half the HP, could invert the bucket.  This one is less than perpendicular from the ground.  My butt dyno says this’ll be fine (at the 1/2” mark).

 

 

[Pullstart 62,849]

Verifying my marks at closed cylinder with a comfortable “ride height”…

 

 

[Pullstart 62,849]

And close to 5” of scoop at ground level, compared to virtually none.

 

 

[Handy Don 12,217]

5 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

You might be able to see, I’ve got 3 scribed lines.  The true intersection, it’s pretty tight to make it work still.  3/8” out, I could likely bring in a bushing.  1/2” out, it’ll clear just fine.  

 

Aren't you glad you paid attention in geometry back in 10th grade! 👍

[Pullstart 62,849]

7 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

Aren't you glad you paid attention in geometry back in 10th grade! 👍

And surprisingly I can still retain enough to teach my kids a thing or two!  Most of my HS math teachers allowed me to work ahead on my own, then catch a few 😴’s in the back of the class so long as I didn’t cause any ruckus.

[Handy Don 12,217]

2 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

And surprisingly I can still retain enough to teach my kids a thing or two!  Most of my HS math teachers allowed me to work ahead on my own, then catch a few 😴’s in the back of the class so long as I didn’t cause any ruckus.

I was fascinated by math as well, but Geometry and Trigonometry really got me excited.

Edited October 26, 2022 by Handy Don

[Pullstart 62,849]

Just now, Handy Don said:

I was fascinated by math as well, but Geometry and Trigonometry really lit me up.

soh cah toa!  

[Handy Don 12,217]

1 minute ago, Pullstart said:

soh cah toa!  

Unit Circle!