Two more?!?!?!?!?

[Deadguy 861]

Well, as long as it works!

[WHX?? 48,815]

4 hours ago, achto said:

mainly because I already have too many irons in the fire and I've run out of room.

Looks like someone was in Wild Rose.....I was thinkin the duals might be worth the look but Yes glad to see a member here get them!

[Achto 27,571]

5 minutes ago, WHX9 said:

Looks like someone was in Wild Rose

Yep, scouting back woods long gravel roads by Big Hills Lake.

[Achto 27,571]

Say @Deadguy, it would be nice to see some of those beautiful 's at the show in Symco next year (July 28-30). Only a few miles from where you live now. Do a little GT plowing, & Fri. night you can take the wife for some "Fishin' in he Dark" with the Nity Grity Dirt Band. Just some thing to keep in mind.

[Deadguy 861]

39 minutes ago, achto said:

Say @Deadguy, it would be nice to see some of those beautiful 's at the show in Symco next year (July 28-30). Only a few miles from where you live now. Do a little GT plowing, & Fri. night you can take the wife for some "Fishin' in he Dark" with the Nity Grity Dirt Band. Just some thing to keep in mind.

 

I know about Symco, but none of my horses meet their pre-1964 rules.

[Achto 27,571]

 

These rules are only for their car show which is held two weeks after the tractor show. Any antique or classic tractor is welcome to the tractor show. The only age rule is if you want to participate in the antique tractor pull, then your tractor must be pre 1955. Here's a pic of the GT plowing from last year.

Edited December 13, 2016 by achto

[Deadguy 861]

What is the name of their tractor show? I would like to get some more info on this.  Thanks!

[oliver2-44 9,747]

Regarding the oil discussion.

We have a lot of old 1940 & 50's equipment at the dams where I work.  Some years ago I had a lengthy discussion with a Conoco/Phillips lab engineer about old non-detergent vs detergent oil. here's my simplified version of his explanation

 

if an engine(or a gearbox)  has an oil filter it should use a modern (detergent) oil ---almost every motor oil on the market today is this, some better than others.  The detergent in the oil keeps contaminants in suspension so the oil filter can remove them.

 

Old engines without oil filters are designed to use a "non detergent" oil.  The non detergent oil allows contaminants to settle out. Have you noticed that some old engines have larger sumps than many new engines.   if you use a "detergent oil" in a non filtered engine, contaminants are kept circulating and you run the risk of wearing out the engine a little faster. With all the modern oils on the shelf, it can be a challenge to find a non-detergent oil (many places only carry it in a cheap store brand oil)

 

The other option (which we do on some old non filtered equipment at work) is use a good quality possible synthetic oil and change it a little more often.  According to this lab engineer the "synthetic oil" is designed to do a better job clinging to and encircling contaminants so they do not come in contact with the equipment components.

 

 

[Achto 27,571]

1 hour ago, Deadguy said:

What is the name of their tractor show? I would like to get some more info on this.  Thanks!

Here's a link to the web sight http://www.symcoutc.com/

[Deadguy 861]

So the event is the Thresheree then? I will have to see what my wife says.  We are going to have a six month old little boy then!

[Deadguy 861]

Time for a tractor update.  I now have the electric hooked up.  The ammeter now reads charging while the engine is running! I also have the governor adjusted.  The engine no longer tries to spin into the sky when throttled up.  Two victories this evening!  Now I just have to change the engine and transmission oil, install lights, install the 2" hitch receiver, change the tires, and install a winch and the tractor will be ready for its job.

[Achto 27,571]

That's right I remember your announcement, congrats again. Might not want to hang out for the night life in Symco with a youngster but a day trip would be cool. It would be good to meet you & your family.

 

Is good to hear that you have DC juice and speed control on you new tractor. Victories are always great.

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

12 hours ago, achto said:

 

These rules are only for their car show which is held two weeks after the tractor show. Any antique or classic tractor is welcome to the tractor show. The only age rule is if you want to participate in the antique tractor pull, then your tractor must be pre 1955. Here's a pic of the GT plowing from last year.

 

 

Hey Dan--there are some familiar faces and tractors in that picture!

 

I ditto Dan's statements about the GT's.  I brought GhostRider (my 1994 WH 314-8 plow tractor) last year without incident.  Obviously everything around there is geared for the older tractors but the GT's are an exception.  That being said, bringing your older functioning examples would be a good call for that show given the focus on all things old.  However, I hate to say it but the early 80's was over 35 years ago! As a matter of fact a 1997 vehicle this January would fit the official 20 year old antique category for plates! 

 

Dan--what does that make you?

 

GhostRider at Symco last year before its new "clothes"...

Edited December 13, 2016 by PeacemakerJack

[Achto 27,571]

1 minute ago, PeacemakerJack said:

Dan--what does that make you?

 Ready for a rebuild.

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

My wife is involved in some of those "rebuilds"--new knees, hips, shoulders, etc!

It's cool to have another local guy in our area into the hobby, isn't it Dan?

 

 Can't wait to meet you @Deadguy! Congrats on the little one arriving soon!  Is it your first?

Edited December 13, 2016 by PeacemakerJack

[Deadguy 861]

39 minutes ago, PeacemakerJack said:

My wife is involved in some of those "rebuilds"--new knees, hips, shoulders, etc!

It's cool to have another local guy in our area into the hobby, isn't it Dan?

 

 Can't wait to meet you @Deadguy! Congrats on the little one arriving soon!  Is it your first?

 

Thanks!  Yes, it is our first.  I hope he likes tractors !

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

Well, your first chance at success is to have a tractor for him, either one currently in your herd or pick up one specifically for him.  That is my youngest Zach on my lap. He is 3 and has a 1970 GT-14 that he named Blackbeard. He is a tractor guy through and through.  Every time he hears me start up his tractor, he runs out to "drive" it.  They love that sense of ownership.  I'm hoping to bring Blackbeard up to Symco this next year to display and to drive Zach around.  I hope we can meet you and your family there.

[Deadguy 861]

4 hours ago, PeacemakerJack said:

Well, your first chance at success is to have a tractor for him, either one currently in your herd or pick up one specifically for him.  That is my youngest Zach on my lap. He is 3 and has a 1970 GT-14 that he named Blackbeard. He is a tractor guy through and through.  Every time he hears me start up his tractor, he runs out to "drive" it.  They love that sense of ownership.  I'm hoping to bring Blackbeard up to Symco this next year to display and to drive Zach around.  I hope we can meet you and your family there.

 

Sounds good!  I hope to be there!

[ohiofarmer 3,265]

On 12/11/2016 at 7:16 AM, ohiofarmer said:

That beasty 16 HP lump in the b-80 is a big deal.That is what makes your purchase a nice pick.

On the other engine.....I found out that it is best to run an engine for a while before thinking they need a re-build. My raider 10 smoked a bit and used oil at first, but penetrating oil in the spark plug hole and changing the oil to a modern Diesel oil helped a bunch as it no longer smokes or uses oil. It is possible that a ring might stick to one side of the groove in the piston causing oil consumption on a tractor that sat for a while.

 It looks like the 8HP engine has no starter solenoid. It would not be a bad idea to spray the switch with some penetrating oil and clean the contacts because all that power is going through the switch to start the tractor. It also appears that the spark coil is living beneath the flywheel. If yours gives you trouble, parts are unobtanium---but you can convert it to the standard 'beer can ' coil ignition system as your tractor has points.  Been there done that on an electro 12

 

 

 Read post 33 before you mess around with running Diesel oil. Good discussion there on how detergent and non-detergent oils work. Maybe use some Rotella synthetic to break things loose and then go with a quality non-detergent would be better advice.

[Deadguy 861]

The Kohler K-series engine manual says to use 30w detergent oil when the weather is above 32 degrees, and 5w30 or 10w30 detergent oil when the weather is colder.  These engines do not have filters.  So why would the manufacturer say that? Is it so that you wear your engines out faster and have to buy new ones more often, or is just reflecting the reality that non-detergent oil is nearly as scarce as hen's teeth in most stores?

[Sarge 3,463]

I've wondered the same thing myself . I recently put the Kohler branded 10w30 oil in the D's K482 since it had a heavy straight 30w in it - did seem to help reduce the common clatter a bit and definitely pumps better . Same with the old 16 Auto and that engine sounds better at idle and full bore than it did before - who knows now days . That Kohler oil is directly rated SG - maybe that's why it seems better but all the ratings are so skewed now days it's hard to tell .

Sarge

[Deadguy 861]

One more thing I need to ask.  Is this Charger 10 a 1969 or a 1972 model?

[WHX?? 48,815]

Get us pic of that tag below the dash & try and get that service sticker right below it...just curious as to where horses might have come from in our area.

[pfrederi 17,739]

If the Kohler is original engine it is a 1972.  1969 Chargers 10s had Techys

[Deadguy 861]

That is not the original engine.  Some time in the past somebody replaced the original with a 8hp Kohler.  If the original was a Tecomesapart, that would explain it!