Racinbob 11,247 #26 Posted November 7, 2016 25 minutes ago, AMC RULES said: Well...damn it... all these crazy azzed bends in this thing have me all mixed up too. After going back down and looking at this thing, seems the set screw hole is positioned correctly after all. Reinstalled the shifter using a new set screw, and jam nut...being there was never one there before. Might've just been the set screw was backing out. All seems pretty tight for now. Will put a load on it tomorrow, and see if it's fixed. Just curious...when functioning correctly, should one be able to hear/or feel those detent ball clicking into place in there? I hear you about the crazy bends. Now from that shot I see you have a 2 piece case. I still don't know which tranny it is and with a highly modified machine like that it could be just about anything. I like what you're thinking about reinstalling the shifter with a new dog point setscrew and jam nut. With no jam nut it would loosen up real fast. If you still have the jamming issue and don't want to open it up I would flush it real good and go the 40wt oil and see if that helps. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,447 #27 Posted November 7, 2016 Not sure if it's possible but I would try to design a shorter shifter bent differently. To me with all those angles your fighting your self and putting a lot of stress on the shift forks. The shorter the shifter the better. Just because Big Daddy Roth and Ratfink had a long shifter doesn't mean it worked. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,247 #28 Posted November 7, 2016 Actually Mike, all the stress would be above the donut ring. Below it there wouldn't be any difference. It would cause more stress on the dog point set screw. Yes Craig. You will feel the detent balls dropping in place. With that shifter it's probably going to be harder but you'll still feel it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #29 Posted November 7, 2016 Have been Mike, trying out a few of my stock shifters with no luck... none of the factory bends will allow this thing to drop into third... as the head/valve cover sits in the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,247 #30 Posted November 7, 2016 I had to rethink Mikes comment some. It could cause more stress on the forks because of the leverage. But I think you would need to abuse that leverage and then you might snap a fork. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,882 #31 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Craig, this is not a Big Daddy Roth shifter...you just need to have your hands in the right place on that shaft to get where you want to go. Remember, you need to stop to shift...you start out in the gear you want. There is no pressure on the shifter...you will just need to grab the shifter lower to move it in the pattern you want...understand?? It will work the way it is...it just looks different and you are going to have to help it. You could put 23 bends in a long screw driver and use it the same way...no pressure. Edited November 7, 2016 by stevasaurus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #32 Posted November 7, 2016 Might just be Gary's idea is right too... only seems to be a problem when rough housing the shifter into gear, out of the seat, moving the tractor around. When I'm driving it, I'm babying it, never seems to be an issue then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,882 #33 Posted November 7, 2016 It is this simple...that shifter is coming at the shift pattern from a different angle...you need to grab it lower to help it do what is intended. That is what you have going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,247 #34 Posted November 7, 2016 I hear what you're saying Steve but his issue started out being that the tranny locked up. I don't think the funky shifter has anything to do with that. Now that I see it's a 2 piece case, like you said in the PM, it could be a suction issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,882 #35 Posted November 7, 2016 yea, he has about 3 things that are or could be going on. The suction thing is one, that shifter coming at the pattern from a different angle is two, and three is somebody has messed up something that used to work. The first one needs to have the shift rails ground with a flat spot...all #5025s have that going on. Two and three have compounded the first issue and made a couple more. If you take some time and sit on it and shift it, you will see what I mean. Trying to shift it while you stand behind the seat trying to push or start it...just compounds what I am trying to say. Anyway, check it out Craig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #36 Posted November 7, 2016 Bob might've hit the nail on the head... might just have a "suction" issue going on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
