Points and condenser

[Al C. 1,428]

I replaced the points and condenser on my 1967 T1067 Wheel Horse, just because they had never been replaced.  Wow!!!   What a difference.   Runs much smoother and at much lower idle speed.  More power too.   Best $48 I've spent!

[tunahead72 2,470]

Genuine Kohler, or aftermarket?

 

I'm just wondering because I'm thinking about replacing both on one of my tractors, and I know there's some debate about whether it matters any more.

[Al C. 1,428]

Genuine Kohler.  The tractor is 50 years old.  I figure, why try something new when the sure-thing parts are still available.  

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,049]

I have used both Kohler and aftermarket in my tractors and I haven't noticed a difference in how well they work. The last two sets that I got were at my local carquest auto parts dealer and they were PrimeLine brand. They were about half the price of the Kohler brand points and condenser. It's just a matter of personal preference and budget. 

[Wheel-N-It 2,969]

Its all about "Tuning"

[Ed Kennell 39,658]

                                                                                                        

Best to use the timing mark on the flywheel and an ohm meter to set the points.   If you use feelers instead, I have found the older Kohlers run better with points gap set 0.002" less than the manual.  

[Wheel-N-It 2,969]

3 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

                                                                                                        

Best to use the timing mark on the flywheel and an ohm meter to set the points.   If you use feelers instead, I have found the older Kohlers run better with points gap set 0.002" less than the manual.  

So would that be .018 Ed?

[Ed Kennell 39,658]

Right Van, If I can't locate the timing mark, and I have to use feelers, I try to set mine so .017 goes and .019 no goes.

[Wheel-N-It 2,969]

25 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Right Van, If I can't locate the timing mark, and I have to use feelers, I try to set mine so .017 goes and .019 no goes.

Thank you so much Ed. Is there a video floating around on how to set timing using the timing mark? I've not done that before but do want to learn how.

[Ed Kennell 39,658]

No video, but check this Van.

 

 

[pfrederi 18,127]

Excuse me does anyone else think $48 for points and condenser is excessive??? OEM or not they aren't made out of precious metals.

[oldredrider 2,553]

for $48. I'd make my own points.

[Wheel-N-It 2,969]

Thank you Ed. I will give this my undivided attention tomorrow 

[RubyCon1 63]

11 hours ago, Wheel-N-It said:

Is there a video floating around on how to set timing using the timing mark?

Yes there is

 

 

[Ed Kennell 39,658]

I gotta  go for a coffee and a box of  them  there fresh crullers , ....Thanks Ruby....you made my day.  

Edited July 20, 2016 by Ed Kennell

[Al C. 1,428]

Slow motion of new Kohler points gapped at 0.018 on a 1967 Wheel Horse K241 10hp engine.  Purrs like a kitten.  Starts on half a crank.  

IMG_6811.MOV

[Wheel-N-It 2,969]

RubyCon, thank you for steering us to that video. Much easier to set the timing than I thought. 

Al C.  I am not able to download your video on my phone but will try later today on my laptop. Thank you!

 

[Al C. 1,428]

Video deleted. 

Edited July 21, 2016 by Al C.
Video will not play.

[tunahead72 2,470]

???

 

I got it to play last night on my laptop. I forget what software worked, but it was already installed on my machine.

 

Engine sounded excellent, by the way, just the way I want mine to sound. 

[rmaynard 15,788]

@Al C. you mentioned earlier that it now idles at a much slower speed. Be sure that the idle is not less than 1100 to 1200 RPM or you will not be lubricating the engine properly.

[Ed Kennell 39,658]

1 hour ago, Al C. said:

Video deleted. 

It played fine on my PC although it was a very short video.    And it did sound like a happy horse.

[Al C. 1,428]

Thanks for the note regarding the idle speed.  How can I measure RPM's?

[rmaynard 15,788]

I sprung for a little infrared tachometer. A whopping $8.95 on Amazon. Now that was several years ago, and they have gone up in price, but they are still available at reasonable prices from many sources.  

 

Search this forum for "measuring engine speed" for more interesting stuff.

[Al C. 1,428]

I went over to Harbor Freight.  They have an infrared photo tachometer for $39.99.  It's a good bit more than Bob paid at Amazon, but it was worth the value of walking home with it.  Both of my machines were idling high.  I tuned them to 1200RPM idle.  Wow, what a difference.  It's like they whisper.  I've attached a picture of the tach meter and the newly tuned fleet.  Thanks everyone for the help.  It's always a pleasure doing a project with my Wheel Horse buddies.

Edited July 21, 2016 by Al C.
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[Wheel-N-It 2,969]

I'm getting one of those!!!