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rexman72

I am in the process of  restoring a homemade loader for my D200 and wondering what GPM pumps you use and the size of the pulley you use on your loaders and wheres the best place to buy them?

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WNYPCRepair

Northern Tool has a few. I built my own loader with this pump and a 6" pulley, but it might be just a bit too powerful, the bucket moves a little faster than I would like. 

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200329712_200329712

 

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Racinbob

:text-yeahthat: and Surplus Center is another good one.

 

http://www.surpluscenter.com/

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WNYPCRepair
1 hour ago, Racinbob said:

:text-yeahthat: and Surplus Center is another good one.

 

http://www.surpluscenter.com/

 

 

I bought my cylinders there

 

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rexman72

So a 4 gpm would work?

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squonk

I run a .5 cu in 5GPM pump on my homemade Power King loader. You have to match the pump output with the cylinder size. loader boom length, and engine RPM. If you have a hydraulic specialty shop near you talk to them.

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rexman72

Do any of you guys have the aluminum or cast iron pumps?when looking at  the pumps i see alot of aluminum

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WNYPCRepair
2 hours ago, rexman72 said:

Do any of you guys have the aluminum or cast iron pumps?when looking at  the pumps i see alot of aluminum

 

 

The one at Northern Tool I posted is cast iron

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rexman72

ok cool I did see that one

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wallfish
On 6/3/2016 at 10:21 AM, WNYPCRepair said:

Used that same pump for a backhoe too. You can always adjust the flow by changing pulley sizes. I went 1:1 ratio for my setup but if you find it going too fast, you can go with a larger pulley on the pump to slow the rpm. That's the same pump PF Engineering recommends for their loaders too.

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rexman72

thats good to know.I was thinking about going with a 4 to 5 inch pulley.

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WNYPCRepair
10 minutes ago, rexman72 said:

thats good to know.I was thinking about going with a 4 to 5 inch pulley.

 

I used a 6". I don't think I can fit a larger diameter pulley without some modification 

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Pullstart

I don't have a loader, but for my plow trucks I've got a few belt driven plow pumps by fisher that I would imagine could do the trick if they fit in your space allowed.  They have a reservoir large enough for the plow cylinder to raise and lower, so if you're using a dual acting cylinder that fills one side as it empties the other, I'd imagine the self contained reservoir would work just fine.  I use these pumps along with northern tool spool valves http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_8516_8516 to run my front plow raise/lower/float, front plow turn and rear plow up/down (pressure both ways) powered by the truck engine without any problems.  The fisher pumps can be had on ebay from time to time, there's one now for $78 or best offer including shipping...

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specifying truck use...

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rexman72

any ideas on how to mount the pump to the front of my D200?

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WNYPCRepair
2 hours ago, rexman72 said:

any ideas on how to mount the pump to the front of my D200?

 

 

I don't know anything about the D series. Do they have a front PTO? And a front tachomatic? If so, maybe the XI type loader mount might work. A bit of fabrication, but not extremely difficult

 

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rexman72

yes they have a front pto and front tachomatic.I will have to look at an XI loader

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82Caddy

Random google photos for you...

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rexman72

those pics look like they attach to where my mowing deck pulleys go

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82Caddy

It attaches in front of the attach-a-matric bracket. There are two holes the ark loader pump bracket bolts to.  Same place the front lower pto guard thing is between the frame rails. 

 

There's lots more pictures out there if you look for them. 

 

 

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WNYPCRepair
5 hours ago, rexman72 said:

yes they have a front pto and front tachomatic.I will have to look at an XI loader

 

 

Looking at those pics, it looks a bit different than the XI. The thread below shows the XI mount a member here made. I kind of copied it, I bought an extra mule drive and modified it for mine.

 

 

 

 

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elliot ness

I buy most my hydraulic pumps and controls and fittings from Bailey hydraulic. Great people that can help you figure out what you might need. and can make you anything hydraulic. all their items are prices below most other places and fast delivery. I have built 6 loaders over the past 15yrs. and always try to use them.:twocents-02cents::twocents-02cents:

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rexman72

I will check bailey out

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squonk

You will want everything matched up so the loader will not operate too fast and be uncontrollable 

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rexman72

For you guys with loaders how big is your hydraulic line going to the supply side of the pump and how big is the outlet side?

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WNYPCRepair
37 minutes ago, rexman72 said:

For you guys with loaders how big is your hydraulic line going to the supply side of the pump and how big is the outlet side?

 

Post # 138

 

the pressure line from the pump is 3/8" ID hose and the suction hose from the res to the pump is 3/4" ID. 

 

 

 

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