AMC RULES 37,141 #101 Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) I'm thinking... the application of some heat might be your friend here. Edited September 29, 2016 by AMC RULES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,299 #102 Posted September 29, 2016 They bend very easily. Mine were worse than that and they straightened up nice. Just bend away. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #103 Posted October 11, 2016 how do i get rid of this to make it look like this this is the top part of the hoodand is mirror like. i have been useing maguiers compound and polish this is the overall hood this is when the paint was dry before the clearcoat. what do i do to to get it looking nice and not dull? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,153 #104 Posted October 11, 2016 Read over the "RJ -58 Project" thread that @Johndeereelfman has going, he has a lot of good information in there and is doing it right. On 9/24/2016 at 6:52 PM, russellmc301 said: can i sand it and then polish it You need to wet sand it using 600 wet and dry paper, then go to 1200 wet and dry and continue wet sanding until it is flat and dull, then go to polishing compound with a low speed buffer. All of your wet sanding should be done using a sanding block and sanding in a diagonal overlapping patern so you won't leave tracks or flatten out rounded surfaces. Go on YouTube and watch a few videos of wet sanding to see what I am talking about. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #105 Posted October 11, 2016 i sanded starting at 1000 then 1500 then 2000 i did everything you said to do. and i hand buffed it, so im taking i need to sand it more. ill see if i cant find anythng new in the rj thread to follow. 23 minutes ago, 953 nut said: You need to wet sand it using 600 wet and dry paper, then go to 1200 wet and dry and continue wet sanding until it is flat and dull, then go to polishing compound with a low speed buffer. All of your wet sanding should be done using a sanding block and sanding in a diagonal overlapping patern so you won't leave tracks or flatten out rounded surfaces. Go on YouTube and watch a few videos of wet sanding to see what I am talking about. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johndeereelfman 309 #106 Posted October 11, 2016 Russ, you'll need to wet sand that finish down until the paint is completely smooth, with no orange peel at all. Sorry Sir, but if you don't, you'll end up seeing it all again after you clear coat. Personally, I would wet sand your finish down with 800 grit paper. Allow to dry, then apply another coat of your red finish, trying to make the last coat as shiny as possible. Once that is dry, start applying your clear coats. Don't sand between coats. Once you have three or four coats of clear applied, let it dry for no less than a week. I found two weeks of drying time to be better, but that's just me. After the clear coat is dry, wet sand your parts with 2000 grit paper, making sure you have everything sanded smooth with no orange peel. When satisfied, start polishing with polishing compound. Buy yourself a buffer, as you will never be able to cut the clear coat by hand polishing. Trust me, I know from experience! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #107 Posted October 12, 2016 cant i keep sanding and not have to restart. like sand with 1000 then go back up to rid of all the orange peel or add more clear coat after i sand away all the polish? its just how perfect i got top part so i think i can sand and get the rest like that. but why is it so dull? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmsgaffer 2,046 #108 Posted October 12, 2016 I think Troy was thinking that you did not have your clear coat down yet. If you don't mind a bit of orange peel, then just use cutting compound followed by polishing compound. The most important part is that you cannot do it by hand you will need a dual action (safest but slow) or regular polisher (fastest, but chance to 'burn' the paint) to really get the shine out of the clear coat. But like Troy said, if you don't sand it back down to the color you will still see the orange peal, but it will at least be really shiny orange peal! (I.e. just not a mirror finish, which is plenty OK if you are OK with it!) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johndeereelfman 309 #109 Posted October 12, 2016 One example Russ. If you look at the picture that you posted showing the polish bottle in the reflection (second picture down from the top) you can see, or at least I can, some orange peel that wasn't sanded out. If you have this part clear coated already, and try to buff that out with a buffing wheel and polishing compound, you will still those little areas through the clear coat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #110 Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) the whole hood has 4 coats of clear coat. so if i use a buffer it will get rid of the dull red around the back of the hood in picture 1? Edited October 12, 2016 by russellmc301 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johndeereelfman 309 #111 Posted October 13, 2016 Sand the hood until all of the paint is the dull red. Then use the buffer to bring back the shine. Apply plenty of compound to your buffing wheel pad and make sure you're constantly moving the buffer around. Don't let it sit in one area too long or it will burn or blister the finish. Believe it or not, the dull paint that you are seeing now, will turn shiny again if you are patient and don't rush it. Good Luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,908 #112 Posted October 14, 2016 One little tip when your buffing. Place masking tape on the sharp body lines while you are buffing the large areas. This will keep you from burning through the edges. After you have finished buffing the large areas remove the tape and carefully finish the sharper edges. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #113 Posted November 12, 2016 well i just sanded it a little bit them put 2-3 more coats of clear it looks pretty good. i just clear coated to back wheels and hope i can start puting the tubes and tires back in. today this is as of about 2 weeks ago I'll get better pics today 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,141 #114 Posted November 12, 2016 Looking really good so far Russ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #115 Posted November 12, 2016 all ready to add the wheels which are in the geting painted and the back i need to remount with tubes. Any ideas on how to put them back on? can't find the before picture but the id plate cleaned up amazingly couldn't even read the wheel horse and now you can read the serial like it's new. any helpful ideas on puting decals on? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #117 Posted November 12, 2016 thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #118 Posted November 23, 2016 tommarow we will see if she lives 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRanger 1,468 #119 Posted November 23, 2016 Looks really nice. I'd clear coat the id plate to keep it looking nice. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #120 Posted November 23, 2016 i polished it and and that seems to put a nice protective coating on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRanger 1,468 #121 Posted November 23, 2016 1 hour ago, russellmc301 said: i polished it and and that seems to put a nice protective coating on it. Isn't it bare metal? If so, it will tarnish again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,141 #122 Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) So far...it's been over a year and a half... ...no significant has formed on the hood, or seat of the Grater. First... ...followed by. Edited November 23, 2016 by AMC RULES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #123 Posted November 23, 2016 she is now drivable 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff lary 171 #124 Posted December 1, 2016 very nice looks new again 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
