Parts tractor score & mufflers from hell
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By KP Cool
Hello, Have a C-161 Manual transmission Kohler engine.
I had been mowing a good bit and thought I would wash grass and dirt off it. Well apparently got something wet and now may have shorted something out. After drying out, something is still wrong it tried to start a couple of time, but now nothing, unless I use two jumpers from the switch connector (and I even replaced switch and still have issue). It will start and run and lights will work etc. except with way I have it jumper-ed it won't shut off unless you disconnect the 1st jumper.
To start and keep it running, use two jumper wires from the switch connector (five blade). 1st. jumper wire from the black wire to the positive on the battery and 2nd jumper wire from red wire to positive on the battery to engage the starter to start it. hope that makes sense, see pictures (Note - the amp meter was showing charging even though switch off and even disconnected, so to rule the amp meter I by passed it.). Did the the one relay block get too wet and short out? Other side note, have had some issues with mice and even had a black snake in it this morning, guess it was looking for food. Do not see any wires chewed, and it was running fine until hosed off dirt and grass clippings.
Thoughts or suggestions??
Thanks.
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By TractorEd
I’ve decided to start this thread to keep this info together. It’s about this C-161 I have.
It showed up at my house one day around mid-2021 as a “parts” tractor.
I had no idea this was going to be left at my door, abandoned, tired, unwanted. I can’t remember a lot of what I was being told about it as I was staring at it wondering why I was chosen, apparently, as the one who was to strip it of it’s organs and transplant them into some other “being”.
By the time those who brought it left, even though I never said it until just now, I knew I was going to attempt to resuscitate her.
No longer an “it” she was certainly worthy of a shot at another life. 16 HP Kohler, Sunstrand Hydro and hydraulic lift! I had already fallen in love with the C-100 I grew up with that I later inherited, but this girl had something extra, something different about her that I thought was …
appealing.
Parts tractor? Not if I can $@%# help it!
She was glistening. Maybe it had something to do with the rain that day on the ride over. But she IS glistening!
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By Tuneup
Hi all,
Summary: Solid mounts a year ago were very nice. Removed balance gears last December. Unacceptable. Installed eBay originals in good condition. I can ride it again at full throttle AND keep my fillings.
Long story (I have the day off):
A thread inspired me last December to look and see if my balance gears were doing well and the rear one was a wobbler. Removed them. She was burning too much oil - original rebuild was just a stone hone and power was not as it should be - it took months to get it bored .020. Hard to find in GA. Installed everything and started her up. Solid mounts USED to be great! That old off-idle vibration that shook the hood was gone thanks to those mounts. A little more vibration was OK. After the removal of the balance gears - NOT! The thing makes my butt numb and I can't mow at higher than about 2500 RPM. The hood vibrates just too much.
Decided to shop Flea Bay for some used, but OK, mounts. Toro prices are . . . the usual Toro prices. Mine were shot and tossed in the bin. Easily installed, right?
I thought in my ignorance that I could just remove a solid mount one at a time and pop-in the originals. Heck, the mount rubber has to be pressed in! Who knew? My old ones weren't like this at the restoration years ago.
Delayed while I figured how to pull the engine on my own. I used to just throw it up on the bench but I've grown more cautious. No buds around in the AM for assistance. Tied some 10 gauge wire around a 2x3. Put one end on the table saw and lifting was easy. Still have to lift the weight but no bending and it was going on the floor. Dead lift at knee level. Pulled the 2x3 across the table to extend the engine to the side of the tractor and let her down slowly.
Engine bay still pretty clean and the engine oil was due for its 1 hour drop after the rebuild anyway. Looked fine.
How to get those mounts in? Tried a C clamp and a socket as a spacer - too clumsy. Greased them up nicely and got longer bolts - tightening them a bit at a time and nudging the mounts into the hole with a blunt object. Turned out not to be a bother!
I've learned not to throw things away. It always seems that you need something the day after it's in the garbage truck. I still had the grounding lead and the large mount washers.
The wife assisted in the re-installation. Kinda' freaked her out. Back in place, and I got to clean the lower engine area from that minor oil leak around the fuel pump. Attracted grass clippings like a magnet.
A few bulb squeezes to start her up and, glorious! No more teeth chattering and I can take her up to 3600 if I like - sounds wonderful and she tore through the deep, deep crab grass. Don't discount those mounts. Sure, that off idle vibration is back and stronger than before. Nothing like a fresh bore for power. Something to spend time on tomorrow.
Now, what to do with these?
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By Tuneup
So gang, it's Christmas time and my company has extended its forced vacation to two weeks, sucking 7 days of FTO from me. I've got all kinds of things to do for the wifey-poo but what the heck can I do for me?
I've got two K301s so may as well get out the surgical tools and do a b-gearectomy. The C-125 goes first. Restored that back in '17 and so she's got maybe 75 hours on her. It'll be rather painless and the youngster is visiting so can assist in getting that b-itch up onto the bench. She's already been moved to the garage and the old Kawi and its carb parts moved back to the shed while I search for tiny o-rings. Wish me luck and pics to come. Oh, there is no rattle BUT she's always had a minor knock I chalk-up to excessive end play (didn't measure it back then 'cause I'm bad but, dang!, will now).
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By Jeff-C175
I put together a replacement for the missing clutch handle today. I like it so much I'm going to make one for my C-175 also!
Now I need to figure out how come it's not staying DISengaged. It EASILY jumps off the detent at the slightest touch. It appears to be a new bracket / lever, judging from the paint on it, but I have not investigated further yet. Wonder if anyone has run into this and solved it?
What is the correct routing for the throttle cable? This just CAN'T be correct! It's right on the cooling fins of the engine, it's done melted the skin off the cable! Maybe it's a replacement cable and simply too short?
If someone could post a pic of the correct routing it would be much appreciated!
While looking that over I noticed some oil 'weepage' at the front of the engine. To me it appears to be concentrated right under the fuel pump. I presume there's a gasket there that may need to be refreshed?
The only other suspect is the valve cover but and that appears to be a little weepy too, but more so the fuel pump.
What say you K301 gurus?
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