fast88pu 3,324 #1 Posted March 22, 2016 I just picked up a 1987 416-8 with the magnum kohler on it. The hour meter reads 51 hours. Should it have a hobbs hour meter on it ? Because it does not. What are the chances of it being original hours ? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,141 #2 Posted March 23, 2016 Humm... what does the overall condition of the tractor look like Kyle? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wishin4a416 2,191 #3 Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Tell Tale signs are the seat, Carb throttle shaft play, steering play and tire wear. If its for real, you just hit the lottery. Good Luck! All my Horses that have meters are Hobbs. Edited March 23, 2016 by Wishin4a416 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebo-(Moderator) 8,363 #4 Posted March 23, 2016 Tractor was left outside for years but from what I saw in pictures (send outside of this post) looks like it could very well me original Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fast88pu 3,324 #5 Posted March 23, 2016 I sent steve photos. Front tires have nubs still on them but it has sat for 20+ years. Tires are dry rotted. Steering is tight. Could you post up the photos for me steve ? Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,520 #6 Posted March 23, 2016 The 416-8, excellent Horse. I don't have much experience with the Kohler Magnums but, I'm thinking great. Post some pics when you have time. Pic below is my 414-8 Magnum and my 416-8 pre Magnum. Magnum is excellent as is the 16 hp Kohler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wishin4a416 2,191 #7 Posted March 23, 2016 Yes, if left outside, it can be hard to tell. Hard to believe someone would let a 50 hour tractor set outside but it happens. I have neighbors who when done mowing, they shut it off and there it sits until the next time. Where ever they stopped. And Im talking brand new machines. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebo-(Moderator) 8,363 #8 Posted March 23, 2016 Here are the pictures The fact that the original battery is in it makes me think it is original hours. 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,112 #9 Posted March 23, 2016 Hmmm original battery, no cracks in original looking seat, not much tire wear, if any and the sheet metal appears all straight. I'm guessing original hours. But of coarse it's easy to swap those battery covers, add new seat and tires (years ago) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,141 #10 Posted March 23, 2016 ...and then promptly... kick it to the curb for 29 years. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fast88pu 3,324 #11 Posted March 23, 2016 I doubt the original owner did that. The chains have no wear on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wishin4a416 2,191 #12 Posted March 24, 2016 The deck wheels show very little wear also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fast88pu 3,324 #13 Posted March 24, 2016 The belts do not even have wear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,165 #14 Posted March 24, 2016 The ribbed rubber foot pads and the belt guard don'[t show any ware and tare and the plastic wheel weights aren't all scuffed up, looks good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 9,053 #15 Posted March 24, 2016 Ok one of the first things I would to after checking fluids is put a new battery in that baby,turn the key to on and put your ear up to that hour meter and listen for the ticking sound. If it's ticking then it's probably correct given your other discriptions. Even if it's not working it looks like a good score! Good luck 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fast88pu 3,324 #16 Posted March 24, 2016 Thank you. I still have to wash it and see how rough it really is. Then probably a restore on it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elcamino/wheelhorse 9,358 #17 Posted March 24, 2016 I can image any body with a grain of sense leaving a tractor outside without putting a tarp or something over it. You may have found a diamond in the rough. Good luck with the project. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TDF5G 2,069 #18 Posted March 24, 2016 17 hours ago, Wishin4a416 said: Yes, if left outside, it can be hard to tell. Hard to believe someone would let a 50 hour tractor set outside but it happens. I have neighbors who when done mowing, they shut it off and there it sits until the next time. Where ever they stopped. And Im talking brand new machines. I've got some of those neighbors too. They park under a tree in the yard. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,486 #19 Posted March 24, 2016 14 hours ago, elcamino/wheelhorse said: I can image any body with a grain of sense leaving a tractor outside without putting a tarp or something over it. Sadly they do Jim, they do... takes all kinds to make a world go 'round. Even a green & yello deserves a cheapy tarp at least. Nice save anyway fast88 'magine you got it for a decent price too.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al C. 1,428 #20 Posted March 24, 2016 Good luck with the restoration. I'll bet with a thorough cleaning of the joints, lube, and a couple oil changes, you have a good chance of having a machine near new. I have a neighbor who leaves his $300 walk-behind mower parked just outside his garage all year round (this is northeast Ohio!). Then he complains that they don't make mowers like they use to because he ends up having to buy a new one every couple years. How do you tell the guy - it isn't the mower that's the problem ?! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fast88pu 3,324 #21 Posted March 26, 2016 Off to make the donuts, I mean clean the horse today. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldon 4,827 #22 Posted April 4, 2016 Any updates? I am partial to the 16's and a 16 magnum tractor is on my short want list..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fast88pu 3,324 #23 Posted April 5, 2016 I have only washed it off so far. I have been finishing up my 58RJ restore 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fast88pu 3,324 #24 Posted May 17, 2016 well it is in pieces. blasting it and restoring 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,520 #25 Posted May 17, 2016 Very nice Horse! My opinion, hard to beat the 16 hp Kohler. The 416-8 GREAT! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites