MWR 321 #1 Posted February 8, 2016 Here's some pictures of the innards of my GT-14. This tragic turn of events began with a flat tire on the back of my tractor. I began the process of removing the rear tire by removing the lug bolts. Then the wheel was stuck to the hub. Genius that I am, I smacked it with a sledge hammer. Two fold tragedy. Not only did the wheel not break loose, but that axle traveled inward, striking the other axle and knocking the retaining snap ring off that axle and onto the other axle. Even more tragic I knew not to do this, I had learned this about 20 years ago when I did the same thing. But over time I forgot that I knew that. I'll probably remember it the next time. It was a good thing that the snap ring did not get loose in all those gears. And I should have it back together sometime this week. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,265 #2 Posted February 8, 2016 Thanks for the "don't do something stupid reminder". I usually do stupid "I knew not to to do that" stuff like that at least once a year. If its been more than a year I will do it on purpose just to get it out of the way! Just put a cluster gears in upside down in a 3 piece 3 speed just to give my self some practice in taking them back apart.... Is pretty bizarre that the snap ring decided to just hop axles! 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWR 321 #3 Posted February 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, WHX6 said: Thanks for the "don't do something stupid reminder". I usually do stupid "I knew not to to do that" stuff like that at least once a year. If its been more than a year I will do it on purpose just to get it out of the way! Just put a cluster gears in upside down in a 3 piece 3 speed just to give my self some practice in taking them back apart.... Is pretty bizarre that the snap ring decided to just hop axles! Bizarre and most fortunate. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,893 #4 Posted February 8, 2016 I would go buy a lottery ticket, if I were you. Bet you can't do that again...a year from now. Sorry. BTW, we have been having a discussion about which way those pinions (with the bevel on one end should be facing). Yours appear to be facing each other. Has anyone ever been in this tranny before, that you know of?? Thanks Nice pictures. Man, you had to really hit that with Sluggo to get the other axle gear to act like a rocket blasting off with that "C" clip in front of it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,991 #5 Posted February 8, 2016 1 hour ago, MWR said: axle traveled inward, striking the other axle and knocking the retaining snap ring off that axle and onto the other axle. I am amazed that the snap ring would come off the other axle without doing any damage to the end groove. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #6 Posted February 8, 2016 Probably time for some new snap rings. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWR 321 #7 Posted February 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: I would go buy a lottery ticket, if I were you. Bet you can't do that again...a year from now. Sorry. BTW, we have been having a discussion about which way those pinions (with the bevel on one end should be facing). Yours appear to be facing each other. Has anyone ever been in this tranny before, that you know of?? Thanks Nice pictures. Man, you had to really hit that with Sluggo to get the other axle gear to act like a rocket blasting off with that "C" clip in front of it. I worked on it 20 years ago. The gears have worked fine like that since then. I will probably leave them like that. And I used a big wood splitting maul for extra emphasis when I hit the wheel. When I quit hammering due to no progress, I got on the tractor to drive it home. It just sat there. I had left the lug bolts out and the hub was spinning inside the wheel. The wheel came off rather easily after that. That may be my tactic if I have another stuck wheel. 2 minutes ago, AMC RULES said: Probably time for some new snap rings. I hope I can find a new snap ring. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,887 #8 Posted February 8, 2016 So....the infamous BFH is not always the answer. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWR 321 #9 Posted February 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, ekennell said: So....the infamous BFH is not always the answer. Not to this question anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWR 321 #10 Posted February 8, 2016 2 hours ago, AMC RULES said: Probably time for some new snap rings. Any suggestions on where to purchase a set of new snap rings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #11 Posted February 8, 2016 42 minutes ago, MWR said: Any suggestions on where to purchase a set of new snap rings? http://www.mcmaster.com/#retaining-rings/=111f1n3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,893 #12 Posted February 8, 2016 ACE, Tractor Supply and TORO will have them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWR 321 #13 Posted February 8, 2016 Thanks guys. I may have to take a trip to Tractor Supply soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elcamino/wheelhorse 9,358 #14 Posted February 8, 2016 A piece of advise Hide the BFH and the wood splitting maul from yourself 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,265 #15 Posted February 8, 2016 By the way the best way to free up a rim from the hub is to loosen the lugs a little and drive it around in circles. Might be kinda hard to do if the tire is flat but if it would hold a liitle air.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,493 #16 Posted February 8, 2016 Never sieze! I had a stuck wheel on an MTD once. Hammered it off and the axle came with it. Those cheapie transaxles have the stinkiest, sticky ist, nasty ist grease you ever saw! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
