kasey54 305 #1 Posted February 8, 2016 I briefly looked at a Wheel Horse 875 today. I It has rear brake drums and a break pedal for each. Is this the way it was made, or has it been modified. Sure looked factory.Any description would be appreciated . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,412 #3 Posted February 8, 2016 I don't think that was an option on the 875 and was only offered on the D series. That tractor should have had just one brake drum setup on the left side. I wish you had snapped a picture. Mike.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kasey54 305 #4 Posted February 8, 2016 Any Idea what I was looking at? It is a hydro with a manual lift. Has a kohler 8 hp with starter generator. Ok , as I said a brief look, it was the left side I saw , from the rear. It definitely wasn't a D series. Hopefully I'll get another look next week end. As I said it was a brief look. It was the left rear side I saw , from the back, Hopefully I'll get another look next week end. I'll probably snah it. I want a starter generator 8 hp any how. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,133 #5 Posted February 8, 2016 Originally, the 875 had no brake drums of any sort. The only braking on them was the left pedal that when pushed, returned the direction control inside the 'console' of the tractor to neutral. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,837 #6 Posted February 8, 2016 9 hours ago, kasey54 said: It has rear brake drums and a break pedal for each. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #7 Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Never saw a Horse with two brake drums. Perhaps it was a Panzer painted red? Chrysler rear w/ two 11" brake drums, left 'n right brake pedals. Edited February 8, 2016 by Tankman 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midpack 892 #8 Posted February 8, 2016 31 minutes ago, Tankman said: Never saw a Horse with two brake drums. Perhaps it was a Panzer painted red? Chrysler rear w/ two 11" brake drums, left 'n right brake pedals. I don't think Panzer ever made a hydro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #9 Posted February 8, 2016 Panzer never made a hydro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kasey54 305 #10 Posted February 9, 2016 Ok, guys. I called the guy and had him send me some pics . You know I'll share. They aren't the best but here they are. I'm thinking some one added the brakes , but I don't know from what. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
engineguy63 238 #11 Posted February 12, 2016 Hey Guys..................I am new , so I should not be a smart $#S ..BUT cant help Myself, PANZER did make a HYDRO (Panzer Meteor) Very short lived....TOO EXPENSIVE. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRanger 1,468 #12 Posted February 12, 2016 Looks completely home made to me. Custom bands around drums from something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse46 519 #13 Posted February 12, 2016 Why would it need two brakes, thats some braking given they don't go so fast? Down hill mowing?? Looks a decent enough conversion though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kasey54 305 #14 Posted February 12, 2016 I've speculated it would aid you in steering while plowing or while rototilling . Who knows, kind of neat though 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,837 #15 Posted February 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Horse46 said: Why would it need two brakes, I personally love the shade-tree engineering on that braking system! I wish had put brakes on the wheels rather than the transmission. i live on a mountain side and have had the brakes become rather useless because of the design. Since the brakes are on the transmission and the stopping power goes through the differential, the tire with the least traction will stop rotating and the tire with traction will freewheel. My neighbor was grading his driveway with his 310-8, bumped the shift lever with his knee and it slipped out of gear. He applied the brakes and one wheel was skidding and bouncing as he went faster and faster; when he got to the switch-back on the driveway he and the went over the edge. God was watching over him because his mid-mount grader blade snagged on some mountain laurel about teen feet down the bank stopping him. I like two brakes! 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob.A.700 306 #16 Posted February 12, 2016 whoever designed and made that setup looks to have known what he is doing. I will admit the brake on most of my horses is more for show than anything else... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #17 Posted February 12, 2016 First of all that is just awesome! Second, could you please check to see if he implemented them to have steering brakes? I sure miss them on my WHs! And finally, well for now, anybody recognize the brake assys? Maybe he didn't implement steering but maybe he like Richard, saw someone "slip off the mountain"! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,887 #18 Posted February 12, 2016 Brakes smakes...who needs 'em Wheel Horses were designed to pull...not stop. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,837 #19 Posted February 12, 2016 4 hours ago, DennisThornton said: anybody recognize the brake assys? Don't know for sure but it looks like a couple of old brake drums from a compact Mopar or Ford with home brewed brake bands. Some of them used rather small brake drums though these may be smaller, perhaps Cushman three wheeler? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse46 519 #20 Posted February 12, 2016 So the brakes are cool, an the pics are nice n all but are you going to buy it? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil854 130 #21 Posted February 12, 2016 You have to pull the trigger on this one. This would make a great conversation piece at tractor shows. TO COOL!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terry M-(Moderator) 2,176 #22 Posted February 12, 2016 On February 8, 2016 at 4:50 AM, Martin said: Originally, the 875 had no brake drums of any sort. The only braking on them was the left pedal that when pushed, returned the direction control inside the 'console' of the tractor to neutral. No Drum, just linkage to the hydro unit.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kasey54 305 #23 Posted February 12, 2016 Phill, the price is ok, the drive is long, and it has no carb, and the present owner has never heard it run. I probably will. I must be ...... infected with the "alleged" Wheel Horse disease . I had a bad week end last week end and lost the rear end in my truck. A $900 tow, and a $ $1200 fix. But I did get home with a Raider and a couple of mower decks. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,133 #24 Posted February 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Terry M said: No Drum, just linkage to the hydro unit.. Technically, the brake linkage doesn't go to the hydro, directly anyway..... It connects to the direction control mechanism underneath the console cover and moves it much like the lever used to go forward and backwards. The only area the 'brake' pedal and linkage differs, when comparing to the direction control lever, is that when the pedal is pushed all the way down, it only returns to neutral from what ever direction the tractor was going in. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,837 #25 Posted February 12, 2016 @Martin you are absolutely correct, I hadn't looked at the model being an 875 Hydro. I was just impressed by the great job done by the builder of this brake system. Hydro or manual, the results are the same; if you put the motion control in neutral the transmission will hydraulically lock up as if you put on the brakes, but this is transferred to the differential where the tire with the least traction will stop rotating. For flat-landers that is no big deal, come down a mountain and this takes on a whole new meaning. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites