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Liquid filled tires pros and cons

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arrkerr
On 1/18/2016 at 9:59 PM, d -bunked said:

go 2 junkyard buy a used fuel pump hook 2 car battery and fill up tires with washer fluid winter blend real fast and simple 2 do

 

Definitely a good idea, or I found a cheap pump used to change oil on a sterndrive boat (sucks the oil out the dipstick when you can't get an oil pain under the motor).

 

Another cheap idea is if you have some of that 'slime' stuff used to fill holes in leaky tires, they have everything you need: a valve stem remover, short hose, and a cap you might even be able to screw right on a jug of washer fluid or adapt easily - if not if you've used it up just transfer the fluid over - might take a while if you got the smaller bottle though.  Just don't completely fill the wheel.

 

Standard 23x8.5-12 tires you'd put in 5.5 gallons, that is 46.75lbs if using washer fluid (vs 58.9lbs in beat juice / rimguard).  My 23x10.5x12 on the 520 hold 6.8 gallons, so 57.8lbs washer fluid (vs 74.8lbs).  That is 75% filled.  Compared to the typical 35lb plastic filled WH weights that people always ask $100 for, that is a lot more bang for your buck vs $22 for 11 gallons of decent washer fluid.  Or do both.  Personally I use the WH weights because I like the way they look, and keep me from having to clean my wheels :)

 

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WH4FUN

This is the information on the beet juice I used.

Rim Guard® was developed and patented in 1998 as a liquid tire ballast that overcame all of the shortcomings of other liquid tire ballasts.

  • Rim Guard®  is nearly 30% heavier than water.
  • Rim Guard® is non-corrosive.
  • Rim Guard® is non-toxic and biodegradable.
  • Rim Guard® is freeze-resistant down to -35°F.
  • Rim Guard® is cost effective because inner tubes are not needed and tires are easier to repair.
  • Rim Guard® is the one and only Beet Juice™ tire ballast!

 

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cleat

I wish there was a Rimguard dealer near me but there isn't to my knowledge.

 

I used plumbing antifreeze. Same weight as water but seems to give the traction I need.

 

Cleat

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WHX??

 

10 hours ago, cleat said:

wish there was a Rimguard dealer near me but there isn't to my knowledge

Should be able to get it at tire shops that do ag tires for farm tractors???

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arrkerr

I can't believe a company in this day, with a rather popular product like rimguard, still makes you CALL to find a dealer.  I don't know why, but I have this aversion to calling people - so for me that immediately rules it out.  If the people on the phone can look it up in a database, why can't they make it available on the web.  I'm an IT guy, I remember setting this up for Carhartt... 20 years ago?

 

I also assume that I'd have to go to a dealer, and I'd really rather not make that time commitment, deal with sales people, etc... I just want to run in to TSC and grab a couple of 5-gallon drums and be done with it :).  I guess that doesn't make sense for larger tractors, but judging from the billions of similar threads there is a decent market here.

 

My other issue w/going to a dealer is that if I end up with a slow leak (lots of rocks in the yard, etc) then I'd like to be able to just maintain the ballast level myself and not have to remove the tire, drive it to a shop, etc.  With WWF I can pick it up anywhere for this purpose.

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Tankman

If you aren't needing the Rimguard can the product be used in a Borscht recipe?

 

I too looked at the Rimguard website. No dealers listed. Waste of time.  :ph34r:

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RedRanger

My issue with any liquid ballast is that it cannot easily be removed in the summer for lawn use.  Weighted tires would destroy my lawn.  For farm or garden only use, it's a no brainer.

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arrkerr
21 minutes ago, RedRanger said:

My issue with any liquid ballast is that it cannot easily be removed in the summer for lawn use.  Weighted tires would destroy my lawn.  For farm or garden only use, it's a no brainer.

 

There is a very obvious solution to this problem.  Another horse!

 

All kidding aside, very good point, weights might be cheaper initially but if you have to remove - dump or store - the ballast every year that would get old quick.

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cleat

If anything, my lawn gets cut up worse with non-weighted tires spinning.

 

I sometimes mow the grass with my diesel tractor that weighs over 5500 lbs and a 72" finishing mower. The loaded R4 tires on that machine don't really do much damage either as long as the ground is dry and of course you don't spin the tires taking off from a stop.

 

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RedRanger
3 minutes ago, cleat said:

If anything, my lawn gets cut up worse with non-weighted tires spinning.

 

I sometimes mow the grass with my diesel tractor that weighs over 5500 lbs and a 72" finishing mower. The loaded R4 tires on that machine don't really do much damage either as long as the ground is dry and of course you don't spin the tires taking off from a stop.

 

Cleat

The "dry" part is my problem.  Last summer was wet.  My yard was soft all summer long.  That said, the grass also stayed nice and green too.  Because of the soft ground, I have tire ruts in some places where the tires track in the same place each time...along a wall and around some trees.

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