Ag Tire size differences

[pfrederi 18,324]

Picked up a pair of mounted used Ag tires at an auction yesterday.  They are Carlisle Super lugs 23 10.50x12 mounted on 8.5" rims.  Put them on my 310-8 (she is my pulling tractor...that is trailers and other stuff not competition).  She had Deestone Super extra grip 23 10.50x12 on WH 7.5" rims. Look at the difference.  Wish I knew where the 8.5" rims came from as the backset is perfect for WHs...

By the way Bob Maynards Studs and lug nut set made swap a breeze

[Jt269 10]

That oughta pull some stuff!

[857 horse 2,581]

That looks.....just   mean !!!!!!!
 

[roadapples 6,983]

Looks good. If the backset is right it probably is wheel horse. Haven`t  seen any others the same.

[98layinframe 22]

Those look great on there!  I'm jealous! That's exactly the look and function I'm going for.. the hitch AND especially the wheel tires.  except im not having much luck finding anything local... or reasonably priced online.

[meadowfield 2,650]

10.50's are the nuts, been running them for years now. 

Course 12's are better

[DennisThornton 4,771]

Picked up a pair of mounted used Ag tires at an auction yesterday.  They are Carlisle Super lugs 23 10.50x12 mounted on 8.5" rims.  Put them on my 310-8 (she is my pulling tractor...that is trailers and other stuff not competition).  She had Deestone Super extra grip 23 10.50x12 on WH 7.5" rims. Look at the difference.  Wish I knew where the 8.5" rims came from as the backset is perfect for WHs...

By the way Bob Maynards Studs and lug nut set made swap a breeze

 

 

 

 

Oh my goodness!  Awesome!  Look fabulous!  I made a note!  "Carlisle Super lugs 23 10.50x12 mounted on 8.5" rims"  I love 'em!

I've seen lots of dual wheels but I've also heard to NOT go with dual wheels if you like your axles.  So I'd like to through that out for discussion.  I know the transaxles are durable, but what does it take to break an axle or ruin a bearing?
Is this a nice compromise?  Or...

[tractorhogg 612]

I used 25x10-12  ITP589's on my Bolens H16 and a Massey 1650,  25x8-12 ITP 589s on my Ariens GT14H, then I used Duros 25x9-12ss and the same tire in 15 inch on the rear of my D160 the Duro Frontier, or Maxxis Ceros as the 15 inch tire is called is good for both turf and dirt. These are all  ATV tires and run under 120 each delivered. I found that for every inch a tire was wider than a rim you got less than a half inch width mounted, a caveat to that is some tire are flatter like the tru powers so they don't tend to crown much because Carlisle took in consideration that these would be used on 7.5 to 8.5 rims. Many manufacturers don't, and a 10.50 tire on a 7.5 rim will only be around 9.75 wide, so your paying for rubber your not getting, but the flip side is that the tire will be taller, in fact it may be too tall to fit under a fender.. I've put out nearly 4,000 dollars in garden tractor tires and turf tires in the last 3-4 years, no pulling tires. I use my tractors in the mud, dirt, turf, snow, ice, etc and while flat wide tires look really cool and may work for pulling a sled, they are not always ideal for pulling a plow, disc, tiller, cultivator. If they were farm tractors would have wide tires on the back and front like most garden tractors, but unless the farm tractor is used as an estate mower generally they have taller narrower tires both front and rear. The older Wheel Horse tractors emulated the farm tractor by using narrow tall 6-12 tires. Having a small engine and light weight they had to be able to work, wide or flotation tires probably wouldn't have worked well on early WH tractors. The ones that I try to stay away from are the ones that don't have a deep lug and the lugs are far apart, they wear out quick and are basically slicks. That said, wide tires do look good and I use wide tires at times, but sometimes I opt for 8 or 9 inch widths as well.

Edited October 29, 2015 by tractorhogg

[Brian01 481]

Those are some good looking tractors. If that Horse starts to go lame, I'll leave some hay and a water bucket out, all you gotta do is lead him to water! 

[DennisThornton 4,771]

I used 25x10-12  ITP589's on my Bolens H16 and a Massey 1650,  25x8-12 ITP 589s on my Ariens GT14H, then I used Duros 25x9-12ss and the same tire in 15 inch on the rear of my D160 the Duro Frontier, or Maxxis Ceros as the 15 inch tire is called is good for both turf and dirt. These are all  ATV tires and run under 120 each delivered. I found that for every inch a tire was wider than a rim you got less than a half inch width mounted, a caveat to that is some tire are flatter like the tru powers so they don't tend to crown much because Carlisle took in consideration that these would be used on 7.5 to 8.5 rims. Many manufacturers don't, and a 10.50 tire on a 7.5 rim will only be around 9.75 wide, so your paying for rubber your not getting, but the flip side is that the tire will be taller, in fact it may be too tall to fit under a fender.. I've put out nearly 4,000 dollars in garden tractor tires and turf tires in the last 3-4 years, no pulling tires. I use my tractors in the mud, dirt, turf, snow, ice, etc and while flat wide tires look really cool and may work for pulling a sled, they are not always ideal for pulling a plow, disc, tiller, cultivator. If they were farm tractors would have wide tires on the back and front like most garden tractors, but unless the farm tractor is used as an estate mower generally they have taller narrower tires both front and rear. The older Wheel Horse tractors emulated the farm tractor by using narrow tall 6-12 tires. Having a small engine and light weight they had to be able to work, wide or flotation tires probably wouldn't have worked well on early WH tractors. The ones that I try to stay away from are the ones that don't have a deep lug and the lugs are far apart, they wear out quick and are basically slicks. That said, wide tires do look good and I use wide tires at times, but sometimes I opt for 8 or 9 inch widths as well.

I see you appreciate the Allis, Massey, Simplicity line.  And the Ariens as well.  I suspicion for good reasons.  I would love to hear your thoughts regarding them. Perhaps either as a PM or another topic in Other brands.

[tractorhogg 612]

Those are some good looking tractors. If that Horse starts to go lame, I'll leave some hay and a water bucket out, all you gotta do is lead him to water! 

Thanks Brian, I'm not that far from you. I have 18-20 tractors. the first thing I do is buy a brand new set of tires for them. The AG tractors I use for the field get 10 inch front  tires, wheels, and 4 bolt hubs, the mowing tractors usually get Kenda Super Turf 500s, but I do use some Carlisle All Trails and the Duros for lawn work as well.

[Tankman 3,520]

Those ag's look great. I'm lookin' for a mounted set, just to have 'em. I see pfrederi went with lug nuts too! 

One upgrade, my opinion, is change from lug bolts to lug nuts. 7/16-20 x 1 1/2" long (local hardware store), bit of red Threadlocker on the threads in the hubs.
7/16-20 open ended acorn lug nuts (auto parts store). My opinion, again, easier to change tires.

Edited October 29, 2015 by Tankman

[Brian01 481]

Those are some good looking tractors. If that Horse starts to go lame, I'll leave some hay and a water bucket out, all you gotta do is lead him to water! 

Thanks Brian, I'm not that far from you. I have 18-20 tractors. the first thing I do is buy a brand new set of tires for them. The AG tractors I use for the field get 10 inch front  tires, wheels, and 4 bolt hubs, the mowing tractors usually get Kenda Super Turf 500s, but I do use some Carlisle All Trails and the Duros for lawn work as well.

i didnt even seen your in Ok..lol..yeah the ol lady takes a trip there once or twice a month to the casinos

[tractorhogg 612]

Those are some good looking tractors. If that Horse starts to go lame, I'll leave some hay and a water bucket out, all you gotta do is lead him to water! 

Thanks Brian, I'm not that far from you. I have 18-20 tractors. the first thing I do is buy a brand new set of tires for them. The AG tractors I use for the field get 10 inch front  tires, wheels, and 4 bolt hubs, the mowing tractors usually get Kenda Super Turf 500s, but I do use some Carlisle All Trails and the Duros for lawn work as well.

i didnt even seen your in Ok..lol..yeah the ol lady takes a trip there once or twice a month to the casinos

I don't let my wife drive, thats how I am able to buy tractors

[Brian01 481]

Lmao

[tractorhogg 612]

I laugh a lot too, but seriously, we live a "traditional" lifestyle in which she does not work, drive, or go anywhere without me. She takes care of me and the house and I pay all the bills, take care of the farm and I'm a full time college student and will be graduating with a degree in Psychology and  minor in Sociology and Philosophy this spring. The last time I worked for anyone was 1982, U.S. Army. I have an agreement with Uncle Sam, i don't work and he doesn't take stuff from me. That will change soon as I plan on teaching after I get my Masters degree.

[tractorhogg 612]

I apologize for busting into this thread, I'll be more careful as to what I post to someone else's posting. I got thinking that I should have made my post on a separate thread and just commented on prefrederi post. Those Carlisle lugs are really nice, and yes it is better to have your rim size closer to your tire size to realize the full width and benefit of the tire. 

[JackC 617]

"I see you appreciate the Allis, Massey, Simplicity line.  And the Ariens as well.  I suspicion for good reasons.  I would love to hear your thoughts regarding them. Perhaps either as a PM or another topic in Other brands."

Comparison comments always welcome.   Out horses like good company.

Those fat boys look great on the back of that horse.  
Nice D-160 with the coveted big block Kohler under the hood.
One of the best cast iron engines the world has ever seen. Edited October 30, 2015 by JackC