callum12 256 #1 Posted June 16, 2015 Hi all,picked up these implements for my Colwood mono tractor (pedestrian operated) they where really cheap so why not! i have now made an adapter that allows them to be fitted to my WH, the only problem is that i don't know what the do, could anyone explain to me what they do and how they are used please?some pictures:thanks for looking,Callum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 10,859 #2 Posted June 16, 2015 Neat stuff Callum. I believe the first one is to plow furrows for planting taters and the like. The second one sorta looks like something to clip off weeds. But I'm really just guessing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WNYPCRepair 1,875 #3 Posted June 16, 2015 second might be some type of hoe. that what the times look like anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 958 #4 Posted June 16, 2015 Correct on the first the second is a row cultivator attachment made to cultivate and de-weed a row of plants which pass between the open slot while the opposing knives slide just under the soil and cultivate and shear the weed roots off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #5 Posted June 17, 2015 Thanks everyone,the seller did suggest that it might be a weeding device, just his guess though.so the row cultivator is to be used in tilled ground or can you use it on unbroken ground?I forgot to post a picture of another implement, i put that up later.thanks again,Callum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 958 #6 Posted June 17, 2015 This is used after ground is plowed, prepped and planted and whatever is planted is up around an inch and the ground is not too wet. When I was on the farm this was my chief job, it takes skill and knowing what distance to set the knives to get the maximum cultivation with minimum damage to the plant(s). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,515 #7 Posted June 17, 2015 Prior to the wide spread use of chemical weed control cultivating was a big part of farming. Tractors were specially designed with high clearance to avoid damaging the crops while getting rid of weeds. Cultivating is actually making a comeback amongst the organic grower crowds and some of the 50-60 year old tractors and their cultivators are getting back into use. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 958 #8 Posted June 17, 2015 Prefredi is right on. We still have at least 3 old Internationals and a diesel Ford which are dedicated to cultivation this along with 2 three point hitch (Knife) cultivators on which a person sits and controls the left and right movement of the two row cultivators as the tractor pulls it along the row. With this device you can do the neatest and cleanest job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #9 Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) thank you for all the information, its nice all these old tractors can be given a job again. here is the other implement i'm unsure about, there are three of these clamped around a rectangle flat bar frame, the clamps allow them to go in any position:thanks againcallum Edited June 17, 2015 by callum12 missing detail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WNYPCRepair 1,875 #10 Posted June 17, 2015 harrow, maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #11 Posted June 17, 2015 that would be my guess, do you reckon an implement like this would be suitable for bustin' through unbroken ground? I'm looking for an implement that can do that but i don't want to spend £200 on a plough to find out my tractor isn't heavy enough (no weights, no loaded tyres). still wouldn't say no to a plough though . the area to be ploughed hasn't been worked since, well, ever as far as I'm aware! its got that really thick grass ( couch grass??), the type that stop a push mower dead! thanks,Callum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 958 #12 Posted June 17, 2015 That shoe you show was normally on a back bar of the tractor, which did the furrow just behind the wheels of the tractor and there were three (3) one on each side just behind the wheels as mentioned earlier and one to do the middle furrow as you cultivated two rows at a time. Again these were for tilled and rowed ground I guess you could use them to break hard untouched ground but this was not the intended purpose a plow or disc is the correct tool for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WNYPCRepair 1,875 #13 Posted June 17, 2015 Well, when I was a kid, we used a plow to turn the ground over, a disc to cut the hunks of dirt from the plow up into smaller chunks, then a harrow to break the clods even further. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 958 #14 Posted June 17, 2015 Exactly correct although some farms do not plow everything and use just the disc and broad seed or use a seed drill. Normally we plow the entire farm in the spring (after spreading manure) then disc the ground to smooth the soil then plant, then cultivate sometimes with the second crop we just disc and then replant or broad seed (as with turnips etc). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WNYPCRepair 1,875 #15 Posted June 17, 2015 Yes, plowing has become a thing of the past, and from what I have read, rightly so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #16 Posted June 18, 2015 At my mums allotment which I am helping with, she is doing a method called permaculture, basically organic, and very little disturbing of the ground. So no ploughing. I also heard that deep ploughing damages fungal connections in the ground that has adverse effects on the crop which might also be a reason for less ploughing now? Plouging my my patch would be horrendous, lovely rich fertile soil just rocks the size of half a brick, that thick grass with massive root systems and very hard packed. I think I would need to use something to break it up before I do anything other than stuff a few fruit bushes in! So you reckon I could use those tines to break it up? Is there anything that would be more effective? Something I could make, or would those tines, a plough or discs be the my best bet?thanks for your help and discusion, it's really intersting,callum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 958 #17 Posted June 18, 2015 If your not going to turn-over the ground rather deeply like in plowing then I would go with a disc as the next best in my book. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WNYPCRepair 1,875 #18 Posted June 18, 2015 Agreed. Maybe the disc will chop up those grass roots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 958 #19 Posted June 18, 2015 Yup! the nice thing about a disc is that you can regulate the cut by adjusting the inward slant of the disc rows the more you slant then inward the more they cut.... also by saving nice heavy flat rocks that you can pile on top to increase the downward weight..... and don't forget to grease the zerk fittings after each use! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #20 Posted June 18, 2015 i'll look into some discs, wheel horse did discs didn't they? i think i remember reading they are really rare and everyones dream implement? callum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 10,859 #21 Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Yes, There were Wheel Horse discs. I'll bet some pictures will show up pretty quick or look in the implement pictures. I had Brinley plows, discs, etc. but they may have made them for Wheel Horse. Not sure. Edited June 18, 2015 by Racinbob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites