callum12 256 #1 Posted April 5, 2015 Hi all, A while back i started a thread asking about the suitability of LED headlights for my A-800. I was in full swing with wiring them then I had 3 months with no tractor while it was at a friends workshop to help me with the exhaust. so I finally got it back and have really kicked off again. the LEDs are wired in and are really bright. At first I was unsure about the bright white light rather than the more yellow light from a filament bulb, but after testing I think the modern brightness contrasts nicely with the rustic old-ness!! I shall upload some more detailed shots and night testing tomorrow but for now here you are: nice old style lamps made by a company called Ring, not sure of the brand reputation but seem just fine to me. the LEDs are from eBay and labelled as 'Cree' 7W 12V LEDs. that's 7W for the two! LEDs are amazing: please excuse my rather shifty look! the photo, it was taken by surprise and it looks like i'm hot-wiring the tractor to steal it or something! lol the dog is Willow. the LEDs look quite unimpressive here but they are actually very bright: I shall explain and photograph the wiring and earthing methods tomorrow when i can get some good pictures. i hope you have enjoyed looking, Callum 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,546 #2 Posted April 5, 2015 Nice! Can you get a us a picture of them at night? Mike........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #3 Posted April 6, 2015 yes i sure can! they will be coming tomorrow, cameras aren't the best at showing the brightness of lights, auto exposure and such. I will shine a maglite next to it for comparison. I'm sure you all know what sort if light they chuck out. callum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roscoemi 245 #4 Posted April 6, 2015 I have a pair of LED lights mounted to the cab of my tractor and they will turn dark into daylight! Much more light and use less power to do it, you will like them on night rides. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
312Hydro 474 #5 Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Looks great! I like the picture of you "hot wiring" the tractor while your dog keeps lookout, lol Edited April 6, 2015 by 312Hydro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chex313 123 #6 Posted April 6, 2015 Willow looks like he/she is disgusted with you for taking credit for a wiring job that Willow must have done... Nice lights, I had the same style(Non LED) on my B80. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Save Old Iron 1,566 #7 Posted April 6, 2015 cameras aren't the best at showing the brightness of lights, auto exposure and such. callum correct, that is the whole purpose of auto exposure, to make all photos appear to be the same brightness. try some comparison shots with manual exposure settings or a lux meter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #8 Posted April 6, 2015 thanks for the kind words guys, I have got an (D) SLR camera so I will use that, no lux meter though. me and willow are a right bunch of hooligans, but what little barking she does is much worse than her bite! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 2,616 #9 Posted April 6, 2015 Nice work :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #10 Posted April 6, 2015 As promised, here are the more detailed shots of the wiring, the night time pictures will come later on sorry to keep you on the edge of your seat!! starting at the switch, this is a large toggle style switch with a 15A (can't quite remember) limit. I bent the lower tab to insure it wouldn't short on the dash. I then have a fuse in a fuse holder, I am using a 3A fuse for the LEDs, not sure where I'm going to mount the fuse holder just yet: the wire from the fuse then runs under the chassis (away from any movement) and pops out through a hole used to access the front axle greaser. the wire then goes into the bonnet where it splits via a piggy back spade connector to the two lights not sure how you can hold back the wires to look neater without drilling though the bonnet. any suggestions>> the lights are then earthed to the bonnet using their mounting bolts, I cleaned off the old paint and rust to insure a good connection. I used rubber grommets to avoid the metal rubbing through the wires the bonnet then has an earth strip running from the bolt that mounts the sheet metal to the hinge going to one of the engine mounts. this is to insure a good earth as the bonnet hinges are pretty loose at the best of times! might turn some nylon bushings using my lathe. and finally here is a shot of the dash board, looks totally original at some point i may add some dash lights that come on with the headlights (LEDs of course) so i hope you enjoyed plenty more pictures, stay tuned for the night time testing!! Callum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #11 Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Finally some night time testing photos, the first picture is just to show how dark it was: and with the lights on: nice lens flare here, like and action film: success i'd say, Callum Edited April 6, 2015 by callum12 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slovinski 42 #12 Posted April 6, 2015 Nice lights....good job personalizing your ride Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 2,616 #13 Posted April 6, 2015 Job well done I'd say! To tidy up the wires, maplin do stick on clips that you run a zip tie through. I use them on my hoods, much neater than tape or letting them flap about! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,150 #14 Posted April 6, 2015 Took a look and found that they make an LED replacement for the 1156 headlights on my 953s, $ 2.11 each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #15 Posted April 6, 2015 I need to go to maplin soon anyway, I'll definitely pick up some of those. the bulbs in mine are the H3 size, I reckon they will be a LED replacement for most sizes, If not I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to modify and make your own bulb holder. remember to change your fuse though! just a thought, these pictures where taken with the engine off, so not charging the battery. the voltage should be around 14V when charging so they might be even brighter!! Callum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clip 185 #16 Posted April 7, 2015 Looks nice! Glad to see another member is using LEDs, I like the fact that they draw a lot less compared to halogens. Here's my setup with exposure settings: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #17 Posted April 7, 2015 great post you've got there, those lights looks really bright. I wonder if mine have such a difference between idle and operation speed? Just got to sort out the engine governor stuff then i'll be away!! Callum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DotheDoo 15 #18 Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) I upgraded my lights too. Much better at night. Also added some small license plate lights to aim down on the shifter/dash area. They are smaller than a dime but they put out a lot of light. I have one on each side of the steering column. I fabricated a bracket to hold the new LED lights keeping the stock round head light plate in place. Edited April 7, 2015 by DotheDoo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #19 Posted April 7, 2015 very nice indeed, I might do some dash lights too. did you do them so they come on with the headlights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 2,616 #20 Posted April 8, 2015 I've done a similar thing with 5mm leds under the dash shining down. Will try get some pics... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 761 #21 Posted April 8, 2015 Hi all, A while back i started a thread asking about the suitability of LED headlights for my A-800. I was in full swing with wiring them then I had 3 months with no tractor while it was at a friends workshop to help me with the exhaust. so I finally got it back and have really kicked off again. the LEDs are wired in and are really bright. At first I was unsure about the bright white light rather than the more yellow light from a filament bulb, but after testing I think the modern brightness contrasts nicely with the rustic old-ness!! I shall upload some more detailed shots and night testing tomorrow but for now here you are: nice old style lamps made by a company called Ring, not sure of the brand reputation but seem just fine to me. the LEDs are from eBay and labelled as 'Cree' 7W 12V LEDs. that's 7W for the two! LEDs are amazing: please excuse my rather shifty look! the photo, it was taken by surprise and it looks like i'm hot-wiring the tractor to steal it or something! lol the dog is Willow. the LEDs look quite unimpressive here but they are actually very bright . Callum Nice Job on the Lights Callum. Ring are a long established manufacturer and retail in UK. I only used replacement LED SMD Bulbs on mine as I don't use them at night, but are much brighter after improving the reflectors- ........not sure how you can hold back the wires to look neater without drilling though the bonnet. any suggestions?. The way I secured the Wire to the lights was to make a tube from fine Fibre Glass matting and bonding it inside the Hood with Resin. I used some tubing from a Soap dispenser to form it and left the tube in there- Not easy to get a good image, but worked for me and it bonded well to the abraded Powder Coated base surface prior to painting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #22 Posted April 8, 2015 Anglo traction, that looks really good, really tidy. It would also protect the wires too. meadowfield, yes we like pictures!! Do you think I should get a bigger battery? the one I've got now is a 17 Amp hour motorcycle size battery. id like to have a nice power reserve if I have to work in the dark without having to run the engine. thanks all, Callum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmsgaffer 2,046 #23 Posted April 9, 2015 Anglo traction, that looks really good, really tidy. It would also protect the wires too. meadowfield, yes we like pictures!! Do you think I should get a bigger battery? the one I've got now is a 17 Amp hour motorcycle size battery. id like to have a nice power reserve if I have to work in the dark without having to run the engine. thanks all, Callum Do you have any rear lights? if your LED's are 7W for the pair then your fully charged 17Ah battery will run your LED's alone for a (theoretical) 29 hours. I would leave in a little safety factor for starting reserve but I think you'll be OK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callum12 256 #24 Posted April 9, 2015 No i don't but I will look into some, I couldn't find any that looked particularly tractor like last time i looked. nice! 29 hours! no worries there then, i'll leave the battery as is. thanks all Callum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DotheDoo 15 #25 Posted May 22, 2015 PEP Boys by me is starting to stock a lot more LED bulbs now so it is a lot easier to get replacement bulbs. But, the complete LED light, Amazon is still the better location for lamp kits. Be sure you are getting them from a US distributor so they arrive quickly and not being shipped from Hong Kong or other places in China. Warranty can be managed a lot quicker. Also be aware of beam width. Most will list a 8 degree, 30 degree or even a 60 degree beam. The larger the number, ie. 60 degree beam, the better the light spread is on the lawn in front of you vs lighting up the neighbors with a 8 degree pencil beam that is useless on a tractor. Doesn't light up the lawn at all.I want to install a rear light on mine, but I want the size to be small, made of metal, and out of the way. I'll post a pick once I have found something that works. The dash lights I posted earlier are wired to the head lights so all come on at the same time. I may do another set to shine down on the mower deck since I tend to find myself always cutting my grass late at night. Work long hours and kids have baseball games to watch.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites