Coley909 12 #1 Posted February 10, 2015 So I was backing up plowing tonight and all the sudden it started free wheeling and I rolled backwards into a snow bank. I can pull an entire wheel off it slides off the axle it does spin opposite of each other but there is some clicking idk if it was there or not before. I don't know if a c clip broke in the gear box or the thing in the picture let go I don't know how this comes apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slammer302 2,155 #2 Posted February 10, 2015 What model wheel horse is it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #3 Posted February 10, 2015 heres the pics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slammer302 2,155 #4 Posted February 10, 2015 Is it the whole axle moving out or just the hub sliding off the axle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #5 Posted February 10, 2015 Is it the whole axle moving out or just the hub sliding off the axle its a 1965 1075 hydro the hub is sliding off the axle. I don't think the whole axle is slidding because I can hold the passanger side tire if you will, and spin the other tire and the axle spins opposite of the tire im spinning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slammer302 2,155 #6 Posted February 10, 2015 Then it should just need a new half Moon key and the set screw tightened back up Looks like it could use a new axle seal too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #7 Posted February 10, 2015 Then it should just need a new half Moon key and the set screw tightened back up Looks like it could use a new axle seal too I hope so, I was thnking that's a sheer bolt but I don't have the slightest clue. As soon as I am done eating here ill go back out and check it. Half moon key? like a key way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slammer302 2,155 #8 Posted February 10, 2015 If you pull the wheel and hub the rest of the way off there will be a slot towards the end of the axle for a half Moon key if urs is missing I will try to post a picture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #9 Posted February 10, 2015 If you pull the wheel and hub the rest of the way off there will be a slot towards the end of the axle for a half Moon key if urs is missing I will try to post a picture if you have a picture thatd be awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slammer302 2,155 #10 Posted February 10, 2015 Here's a pic of my RJ trans if you look towards the end of the axle there is a groove for a keyif urs is sheared off or missing that will be ur problems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #11 Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) slide the wheel all the way off and this is my findings, is there two key ways? something doesn't look right inside the hub Edited February 10, 2015 by Coley909 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slammer302 2,155 #12 Posted February 10, 2015 Your hub looks pretty trashed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #13 Posted February 10, 2015 Your hub looks pretty trashed thats what I was thinking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baerpath 517 #14 Posted February 10, 2015 If you have a machine shop close You could brooch a keyway ($10) in the other side of the hub and drill a new set screw hole and reuse it. Or get another hub and keyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #15 Posted February 10, 2015 I have a buddy with a machine shop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,744 #16 Posted February 10, 2015 I always add a second set screw to all my hubs. Drill and tap it 90 degrees from the original. The wall isn't as thick, but there is enough to get a good thread . It will help to keep the hub from moving on the axle. Your movement is caused by all the gear oil from the leaky seal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #17 Posted February 10, 2015 I was thinking about drilling all the way threw and adding a sheer bolt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,744 #18 Posted February 10, 2015 The axle and its keyway appear to be OK. I would not recommend drilling thru the axle. I would repair the hub or look for a new one. Maybe you can clean up your hub and add the second set screw to get by till you can get a new hub. There may be a member close to you that may have a hub. Is it 1" or 1 1/8" dia. If you must drill for a shear bolt, I would still use the key and drill the hole 90 deg from the key and near the inside end of the hub. So there is less of the hub to slide over the hole when you have to remove the hub. The hole will mushroom out and cause friction with the hub. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #19 Posted February 10, 2015 Ah ok, that hub is pretty messed up that's why I thought I should get a sheer bolt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericj 1,578 #20 Posted February 10, 2015 definitely replace the hub, if you use the shear bolt and then later down the road if any thing happens you will have to replace the whole axle which is a lot more work and cost. do it right the first time and don't have to redo later , hopefully eric j Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,605 #21 Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Drilling through the hub and axle works, until the hole wallows out. I had this on mine and had to instal 10 new bolts on a snowy day Edited February 10, 2015 by C-101plowerpower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psalms83:18 174 #22 Posted February 10, 2015 I always add a second set screw to all my hubs. Drill and tap it 90 degrees from the original. The wall isn't as thick, but there is enough to get a good thread . It will help to keep the hub from moving on the axle. Your movement is caused by all the gear oil from the leaky seal. couold you show us a pic of your double set screw on your hubs?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmsgaffer 2,045 #23 Posted February 10, 2015 I would DEFINITELY get the hub repaired (new keyway made) with your buddy at the machine shop or buy a new one. Do NOT drill through that axle unless you want to have a whole ton of heartache down the line when you break the axle or various other major problems. Your axle looks like its in good shape other than the bad seal. Do yourself a favor and order a new set of seals while you are waiting for your new hub or your hub to get fixed and replace it while you are there. There is lots of good information here on replacing the seals. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,744 #24 Posted February 10, 2015 could you show us a pic of your double set screw on your hubs?! Here ya go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coley909 12 #25 Posted February 11, 2015 I contacted my buddy with the machine shop he doesn't see a problem with making another key way or correcting mine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites