thehorse 221 #1 Posted October 14, 2014 Picked up 416-h and part of the deal was the wheel weights and hub caps that are attached. I know it's not a great pic but someone might know by looking. Are these a wheel horse item? I see where they would be a good idea, you would be able to still run hub caps. Not sure but wanted to check and see if they are WH and at all desirable. I don't intend on using the hubcaps so will probably put on some real weight and take them off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CasualObserver 3,408 #2 Posted October 14, 2014 did have some, but I've never seen a set that looked like that. All the inside weights I've seen are flat on the surface. They appear to be kind of orange from your pic, are they? or is that just picture color? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldlineman 1,482 #3 Posted October 14, 2014 not sure about the weights but looks like you have a crack in the trany mounting bracket, you probably already saw it though. Have a good time fixing up another WH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slammer302 2,155 #4 Posted October 14, 2014 I know wheel horse did make inside wheel weights but I can't tell you if those are actually wheel horse I have a set on a commando 8 but I have them on the outside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dtallon 320 #5 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) I've got a pair very similar to those that were from a Montgomery Wards, and I think they are Wards/Gilson weights. Was curious if they would fit on the inside. Looks like they will. They are 63lbs. each. Great for pushing snow! Edited October 14, 2014 by dtallon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,741 #6 Posted October 14, 2014 This is what my inside rear wheel weights look like (only cream color). The large ones are rear, smaller are front. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,365 #7 Posted October 14, 2014 Picked up 416-h and part of the deal was the wheel weights and hub caps that are attached. I know it's not a great pic but someone might know by looking. Are these a wheel horse item? I see where they would be a good idea, you would be able to still run hub caps. Not sure but wanted to check and see if they are WH and at all desirable. I don't intend on using the hubcaps so will probably put on some real weight and take them off. Not only a crack but a hole as well! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JERSEYHAWG / Glenn 4,497 #8 Posted October 14, 2014 Not only a crack but a hole as well! Isnt a crack a hole? Lol Sorry mike, I couldnt resist. Glenn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #9 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Suburban inside wheel weights... only one's I know of. Edited October 14, 2014 by AMC RULES 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thehorse 221 #10 Posted October 14, 2014 Yes...I'm in the process of receiving a bracket from a member...Paulc......that will mount to the two bottom holes ants up to the frame. I'll get it welded up also but probably in the spring. Should do the trick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thehorse 221 #11 Posted October 14, 2014 Btw...it's not a hole...it's where WH used a horizontal flat steel to go between the two holes to add strength...ha ha did not work. The dark part that looks like a hole is where the flat steel portion broke off at the weld. Not much weld at all. Not sure why the tranny mount was not way thicker on these tractors. And.....bad light ...that are red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #12 Posted October 14, 2014 I don't think Wheel Horse welds were ever a thing of beauty. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldlineman 1,482 #13 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Its nothing that can't be fixed and made better. I have 2 horses 1989 414-8 and 1979 c-101 checked both for cracks look perfect. c-101 has pushed a lot of snow thought it would show some cracks but perfect. You never know why they crack. Edited October 14, 2014 by oldlineman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thehorse 221 #14 Posted October 14, 2014 Probably from pulling tree stumps! Ha ha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,762 #15 Posted October 15, 2014 Picked up 416-h and part of the deal was the wheel weights and hub caps that are attached. I know it's not a great pic but someone might know by looking. Are these a wheel horse item? I see where they would be a good idea, you would be able to still run hub caps. Not sure but wanted to check and see if they are WH and at all desirable. I don't intend on using the hubcaps so will probably put on some real weight and take them off. I think the inner weights you show are Bolens. I had an H16XL with that style of inner weights. You can, of course, put an exact same set on the outside of the rims as well, giving 4 weights to the tractor. With 4 of them, probably gain 250lb total weight...est. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,029 #16 Posted October 15, 2014 I've sold a couple sets of those "inner" weights, as stated above they are Wards/Gilson weights, they were not made to go inside but do fit, kinda sought after by collectors of that brand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmsgaffer 2,045 #17 Posted October 15, 2014 This is what my inside rear wheel weights look like (only cream color). The large ones are rear, smaller are front. Do you have a picture of using the WH weights on the inside? Ive never seen that before, and sounds like a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,029 #18 Posted October 15, 2014 Most WH's you can't put them on the inside they will rub. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thehorse 221 #19 Posted October 15, 2014 Yes...look at pic at top of post. That's the best pic I have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,741 #20 Posted October 15, 2014 Do you have a picture of using the WH weights on the inside? Ive never seen that before, and sounds like a good idea. You know, now that I have thought about it, mine ARE NOT like this. They do fit on the inside, but each side is in 2 pieces so they can be put on while the rim is mounted to the tractor. I will try to get photos, but I will be out of town (mini vacation) for a couple of days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,102 #21 Posted October 15, 2014 Here is a manual on some inner weights that fit the 953, 1054 and 1054A - 4-bolt wheel Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,741 #22 Posted October 15, 2014 Just checked this out and this is what I have on my GT-14 http://www.wheelhors...5-ww-93-122pdf/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cutlas3391 776 #23 Posted October 16, 2014 I also did the same thing pickup a wheel horse with inner weights I couldn't figure if they from the factory? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericj 1,578 #24 Posted October 16, 2014 never seen inside front weights before that's kool, might be a bit hard to grease the front bearings tho eric j Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hodge71 664 #25 Posted October 17, 2014 Suburban inside wheel weights... only one's I know of. I should never have sold those weights....I'm still kicking my self to this day. I had 3 sets...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites