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Grade 5 bolts for tranny mount?

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Fordiesel69

I took a factory bolt out of my 312-8 and took to the store, it was only grade 5 so that is whet I got, but longer for my 1027 hr 314-H.  Someone had thru bolted it with smaller bolts and nuts.  Is grade 5 adequate?  Seems foolish.

 

The guys story was that the tranny loosened up and the bolts got lost. 

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Desko

Grade 5 has been in my dads work horse since 1983 with no cracks or loosening up so id say there fine but id go with grade 9 if your going to push snow or plow a garden

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CasualObserver

Grade 5 will be fine... truthfully, Grade 2 (common zinc coated cheap bolts) are fine for most of the bolts in these tractors.  The grading is the hardness of the bolt... what it's going to take to break it or shear it off.  Most of the bolts on these tractors are just holding stuff together with very little shear forces in play. Using Grade 8 or 9 is a waste of money. Remember, the harder a bolt is, the more brittle it is.

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Desko

Grade 5 will be fine... truthfully, Grade 2 (common zinc coated cheap bolts) are fine for most of the bolts in these tractors.  The grading is the hardness of the bolt... what it's going to take to break it or shear it off.  Most of the bolts on these tractors are just holding stuff together with very little shear forces in play. Using Grade 8 or 9 is a waste of money. Remember, the harder a bolt is, the more brittle it is.

True very true, what I'm getting at is it has more tensile strength and a higher torque value, but I agree that grade 5 will suffice what I was saying is a higher grade the less likely it will break IMHO but I am no bolt master just a diesel mechanic in training and have only had one wheel horse transaxle out.

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jrc0528

I would stick with the factory spec for most bolts, unless you have re-engineered (modified) something and now require stronger fasteners.  The transmission mounting bolts aren't particularly loaded in shear, but they do take quite a tensile load any time the tractor is pulling (or pushing) hard.

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pfrederi

Better to break a bolt than to strip out or fracture the cast transmission case

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gwest_ca

You can drill a broken grade 5 bolt to get it out but you will not drill a good broken grade 8 bolt.

 

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squonk

If you do enough to break a bolt you will probably crack the frame anyway.

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AMC RULES
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There were no broken bolts here...

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Tim Bergfeld

If the bolts just loosened up then sounds like they were not tight enough if that's the case put some lock washers on it tighten it good and check it after you use it a few times.

Tim

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