Lost Pup 172 #1 Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) http://manuals.harborfreight.com/manuals/61000-61999/61614.pdf The online HF ads for August 2014 show the new 22HP horizontal V-twin engine. My local store does not have it yet. I have found the online PDF manual for it. Looks like an option for those looking at a repower of their tractors. 22HP .......Perfect for a 520 I just passed up with a blown engine. FYI Edited August 4, 2014 by Lost Pup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,133 #2 Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) decent looking engine. might be worth looking into, only 1" shaft mentioned in the manual though.... does have a front mounted oil filter for easy access on the horses...... Edited August 2, 2014 by Martin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
varosd 1,185 #3 Posted August 2, 2014 looks interesting. $699.99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlenPettit 1,717 #4 Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) FYI (find a flier): August 01, 2014 New HF mailer last night - with a 20% off coupon that $699.99 drops down to $560, so now it might be worth looking into. It's not an option for restorations or the purist, but it might be a good choice for those looking to extend the life of a working tractor, engine parts may be hard to find, but for normal use, users seem to be happy, doubt if you'll get a fraction of the number of years that a Kohler would give. Edited August 2, 2014 by GlenPettit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
varosd 1,185 #5 Posted August 2, 2014 FYI (find a flier): August 01, 2014 New HF mailer last night - with a 20% off coupon that $699.99 drops down to $560, so now it might be worth looking into. It's not an option for restorations or the purist, but it might be a good choice for those looking to extend the life of a working tractor, engine parts may be hard to find, but for normal use, users seem to be happy, doubt if you'll get a fraction of the number of years that a Kohler would give. I think some of that fine print on the coupons exclude Predator engines like the tool chest, floor jacks etc. will check Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
km3h 543 #6 Posted August 3, 2014 From the looks of that exhaust muffler cover they may be targeting the Wheel Horse owners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 22,086 #7 Posted August 3, 2014 So generally these motors are "cloned" from a known brand. Anyone have an idea if this one is a cloned motor? Maybe after a Briggs Vanguard or something along those lines? Mike........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
km3h 543 #8 Posted August 3, 2014 I am told that the smaller motors are Honda clones. Maybe these are also. I have read that parts were interchangeable with Honda on the smaller ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldon 4,828 #9 Posted August 3, 2014 The predator's were/are honda clones. They were supplied originally by Lifun from China. Not sure who supplies them these days.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorHfuhruhurr 137 #10 Posted August 3, 2014 The 25% 0ff coupon from slick deals below doesn't mention engines which makes it $524.25 plus tax http://slickdeals.net/f/1276399-harbor-freight-coupon-thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boovuc 1,090 #11 Posted August 3, 2014 OK. Older WH engines had one inch crank shafts if I'm correct in thinking that. So which ones had one inch shafts that we could put these clones on a WH factory PTO bell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dodgemike 52 #12 Posted August 3, 2014 I repowered a snowblower this Winter with the Predator engine. Very satisfied with it for a working Piece of equipment. If these new Motors are as good I am in. Due to economics, I guess I have Joined the throwaway society. Sent from my SCH-S720C using Tapatalk 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 993 #13 Posted August 3, 2014 iknow my 1986 308 had the 1 inch shaft,pretty sure that all 8hp motors had the inch shaft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,133 #14 Posted August 3, 2014 might be a good repower for the workhorse tractors. the briggs twin used a 1" shaft........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 57,918 #15 Posted August 3, 2014 http://manuals.harborfreight.com/manuals/61000-61999/61614.pdf The online HF ads for August 2015 show the new 22HP horizontal V-twin engine. My local store does not have it yet. I have found the online PDF manual for it. Looks like an option for those looking at a repower of their tractors. 22HP .......Perfect for a 520 I just passed up with a blown engine. FYI You must be a time traveler, seeing a "2015 ad" It is an interesting option for repowers, I had a 12 HP HF honda clone in an 855 and it was a good runner, but hard to regulate the speed. If it was in a hydro that wouldn't be a problem at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shallowwatersailor 3,214 #16 Posted August 4, 2014 A sleeve to bring the shaft to 1 1/8" could be used. My concern is the oil filter. What is available for it? Hopefully the engine would be a Honda clone and be able to use that application. Looks promising! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost Pup 172 #17 Posted August 4, 2014 Back to 2014. You must be a time traveler, seeing a "2015 ad" It is an interesting option for repowers, I had a 12 HP HF honda clone in an 855 and it was a good runner, but hard to regulate the speed. If it was in a hydro that wouldn't be a problem at all. A honda GX 660 Clone. Maybe ?? http://engines.honda.com/models/model-detail/gx660 A sleeve to bring the shaft to 1 1/8" could be used. My concern is the oil filter. What is available for it? Hopefully the engine would be a Honda clone and be able to use that application. Looks promising! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don1977 604 #18 Posted August 4, 2014 There isn't a crank shaft bearing listed so it must be a bushing engine. It won't take the side thrust of the manual PTO you would have to use an electric clutch. That make it another couple hundred more it you don't have a 1" electric clutch or a thrust bearing off a Briggs power Wheel Horse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 64,536 #19 Posted August 4, 2014 The 25% 0ff coupon from slick deals below doesn't mention engines which makes it $524.25 plus tax http://slickdeals.net/f/1276399-harbor-freight-coupon-thread I think a lot of the sale items say that the sale coupon isn't valid with any other discount offers at the time. it might be worth checking into before assuming the lower price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrabHorse 2 #20 Posted August 7, 2014 There isn't a crank shaft bearing listed so it must be a bushing engine. It won't take the side thrust of the manual PTO you would have to use an electric clutch. That make it another couple hundred more it you don't have a 1" electric clutch or a thrust bearing off a Briggs power Wheel Hors I was wondering about the crank bearings also. And the engine looks rather tall and with a low crank height, so If you had to raise it up off the frame some then it might be too high to clear the hood. I think a lot of the sale items say that the sale coupon isn't valid with any other discount offers at the time. it might be worth checking into before assuming the lower price. It is usually okay on an item with normal in the store sale price and use a 20% or 25% off coupon with them. I think you would not be able to use the coupons on something that was a "special sale", like a clearance on a scratch and dent item, or using 2 coupons on one item such a item sale coupon plus the 20% off coupon, ect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites