Trans filter

[catman81056 3]

I want to change the trans oil and filter on my D-160 and was wondering if there's an aftermarket spin on available. Anyone know if there is? What brand maybe?

[kj4kicks 151]

I don't use anything but OEM filters. Even if another filter will physically fit, that doesn't mean that the internal valving is the same.

Eldon.

[catman81056 3]

Thats a good point. I called the closest parts supplier and they want $12.99. Guess I'd rather be safe than take a chance to save a few $$$.

Thanks

[nylyon-(Admin) 7,264]

The Wheel Horse part isn't that much more than aftermarket, although Wix makes nice filters too. An important note about the trans filters is that they do not have an internal bypass valve like oil filters have, so like Eldon said an aftermarket filter may have valving in it which would not make it suitable for hydro applications.

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,496]

The question about after market parts comes up on just about every forum out there. Rather be belts, filters, plugs, whatever, it's going to come up. People who go out and buy a $8000 John Deere garden tractor and then they want to save a few cents to a buck or two on a filter or belt? Why? As Karl stated, the OEM part isn't that much more and it was designed to meet the OEM specs. Why take a chance on an after market part just to save a little money? I can understand if the OEM filter or plug was made by the same manufacturer that you're wanting to buy, but how can you be sure it's the same specs.

On the JD sites, people automatically assumed that the JD part is more expensive than an after market one. (That's why you see people bidding on ebay on a part and paying more than they would if they went to the dealer - they automatically assumed the OEM part is much more expensive). What I see happening a lot is that someone buys an after market belt and then it breaks prematurely and they think something is wrong with their tractor. What they don't realized that a belt dimensions is more than just the length. There's the cross sectional dimensions to consider. A JD belt, for example, has a certain thickness, depth AND angle that allows it to seat in the pulleys properly. An after market belt may have the same length, and maybe the same thickness and width, but the angle is wrong and it may not seat into the V of the pulley properly. Therefore it won't work as good or as long.

Sorry for the rant, but that's my 2 cents worth.

[kpinnc 11,877]

This thread raised an eyebrow for me, since I just made a few changes inside my transaxle on my Bronco 14. It uses the same Sundstrand pump as the D-160/180/200, but has the motor side integrated, rather than use the manifold setup like the "D".

To get to the point, I used the WIX equivalent to the Toro #79-5270 filter. I no longer have a local supplier for WH parts as of last year, so I didn't know I'd need anything more than a good quality krap trap. Do aftermarket outfits like RCPW carry the real deal, or can I specify something for a hydrostatic locally?

I'm not using the Bronco yet, as it has a few more modifications to go before I even put the rear wheels back on, but I am testing a few things with the hydraulics. In other words, it's running, but never under a real load. I had planned to exercise the differential and other gears, as well as the hydraulics, and replace the fluid and filter before putting it back to work. It has new fluid in it, and a new filter. Since I have made changes internally, I had planned this "phase" with the machine to be a good flush for the tranny, just in case the new gears flake off any metal on initial running. Should I be concerned that it won't filter the fluid correctly?

Kevin

[Brrly1 1,146]

Hello to all From what I understand Wix filters make the Wheel Horse filters. I will be able to verify in the morning but I am almost positive. John

[kj4kicks 151]

Without putting too fine a point on it, just because the same mfg makes both filters, does not mean the specs are the same.

Chevy made Chevettes and Corvettes. They're both cars, but the specs are way different!

Eldon.

[Nick 13]

I took the Toro filter number 102819 to the wix website and it gave me the filter number 51521 as the replacement. That filter has a bypass valve. As Nylyon said the hydro filters dont have a bypass. I could be wrong on the part number or maybe a wix dealer can find a true hydraulic filter.

This is the spec sheet on the filter I did find.

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/Par....asp?Part=51521

I go along with the others saying its best to buy from a toro dealer if you can.

Nick

[kpinnc 11,877]

My understanding is that if you ever allowed the contaminates to clog the filter to the point that the bypass was used, you've already destroyed the hydrostatic pump anyway.

How do you know if you've got one without a bypass? Even the aftermarket suppliers I've found don't have genuine WH filters, just equivalents.

Kevin

[Curmudgeon 28]

The question about after market parts comes up on just about every forum out there. Rather be belts, filters, plugs, whatever, it's going to come up. People who go out and buy a $8000 John Deere garden tractor and then they want to save a few cents to a buck or two on a filter or belt? Why? As Karl stated, the OEM part isn't that much more and it was designed to meet the OEM specs. Why take a chance on an after market part just to save a little money? I can understand if the OEM filter or plug was made by the same manufacturer that you're wanting to buy, but how can you be sure it's the same specs.

On the JD sites, people automatically assumed that the JD part is more expensive than an after market one. (That's why you see people bidding on ebay on a part and paying more than they would if they went to the dealer - they automatically assumed the OEM part is much more expensive). What I see happening a lot is that someone buys an after market belt and then it breaks prematurely and they think something is wrong with their tractor. What they don't realized that a belt dimensions is more than just the length. There's the cross sectional dimensions to consider. A JD belt, for example, has a certain thickness, depth AND angle that allows it to seat in the pulleys properly. An after market belt may have the same length, and maybe the same thickness and width, but the angle is wrong and it may not seat into the V of the pulley properly. Therefore it won't work as good or as long.

Sorry for the rant, but that's my 2 cents worth.

Wheel Horses are the same. People get a 5/8" belt, or a B belt. Most Wheel Horse belts are neither, they are actually HB (or other sizes, there are many), an agricultural grade belt. Close, but not quite the same. Many are also an odd length, not even inches, but with a fraction. So the tension is "almost" but not quite right.

Dale