Jump to content
jonkeller

my pto clutch won't disengage

By jonkeller, in Wheel Horse Tractors

Recommended Posts

jonkeller    0

jonkeller
Posted

Hello, 

I don't know if this is the correct forum but I am having trouble with the pto on a b-165.  It won't disengage. I have adjusted it according to the manual with no luck.  There appears to be a small oil hole on the outside and squirting oil in that helped for a while. This is the only vertical shaft machine I have so I am not really familiar with them.  I can tap the lower part of the pulley with a brass hammer and it will release but once I engage it, it is stuck until I do that again. I would not mind taking it apart but I would be working on my back underneath and so would like to know anything I can about them before I try that.  Would appreciate anything you can tell me.

 

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
 

JackC    617

JackC
Posted

I had the same problem with two vertical shaft tractors.  I don't remember exactly what I did but I was able to get them both to work properly.  

I basically just worked with the adjustments after getting the top and bottom parts of the PTO separated.  The adjustment may be covered in the service manual for your model or almost any similar vertical shaft unit.  That problem is the main reason I stay away from those tractors.  The electric PTO on the vertical shaft models (252H for example) are OK.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
 

gwest_ca-(File Mod)    11,039

gwest_ca
Posted

Part 4 of this manual explains the pto adjustment

This manual also has it but poor illustration about page 22

This manual also used for 1983

Garry

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
 

jonkeller    0

jonkeller
Posted

Thanks for your replies.

 

I had seen that manual and adjusted the pto it with the correct clearances but the pto pulley stays stuck in the up position.  I guess now I am wondering what it takes to get it apart.  After disassembling the bracket with the .010 clearance will it just come off or will i need further disassembly. Will it need a puller.  It is hard to tell from the drawings and I have never had one off.  If I could get it off I imagine I could figure out what is wrong with it.

 

Jon

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
 

jonkeller    0

jonkeller
Posted

Ok.  So I got the pto pulley off and can see how it goes together.  Everything is turning freely.  There is  a lot of grease in there.  I see it has an oil seal at the top.  Is there supposed to be a lot of grease, some grease, oil or what ?  There is a hole near the bottom so i imagine oil would come out.  How much grease is enough ?

 

Jon

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
 

dwcphoto    7

dwcphoto
Posted

Hi Guys,

  If it's alright I'll drop in on this thread, but mine's a horizontal shaft, 518 Onan.  The PTO spins and is pretty tight, even when disengaged.  Do I simply have the clutch too tight? Thank you, dwc

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Go To Topic Listing

  • Similar Content

    • the jeep driver
      417A Clutch Seized When Mowing, How Do I Fix?
      By the jeep driver
      My daughter was using the Wheel Horse rider to mow, I was push mowing.  She drives over to me and says, "Dad, the blades aren't turning." I look at the mower, she's got the blades engaged (lever forward) but nothing is moving.  I disengage the blades, and re-engage... nothing.  No movement from the belt nor clutch.  Then I notice the smell, and look closer, the belt is so hot is melting on the clutch.  Or rather, the clutch is so hot it's melting the belt.  Melting occurred. 

      While the clutch is disengaged, I can spin the clutch freely; and whilst it's engaged, it won't move. 

      So, what did I do now?  Peter told me to lube that needle bearing, but I couldn't find a write up/how to anywhere, so I was putting it off until after the leaves were done falling in the Fall.  I haven't taken anything off yet, other than the pins that hold the pinion and such, and the little brake pad.  I see there are two snap rings, assume they come off, and then the assembly slides out as a whole? 

       
      Some pictures of the clutch, can anyone tell if it's usable from them?
       

       

       

       
       
    • decvt79
      270H 72106 Electrical issue
      By decvt79
      My 1999 270H with 48” deck is having an issue getting power to PTO.   Checked PTO with jumper to battery and it worked fine and I’ve actually been cutting grass using the jumper for awhile.  I checked power from PTO switch to PTO and there is none.  I checked PTO switch and it appeared OK but I replaced it anyway and still no power to PTO.   Then checked brown/tan wire leading to switch and there is none.   Could the issue be the NMIR module and is there a good way to check it.  If bad, where is the best place to get a replacement and do other brands/models have NMIR a modules I can use.    Also, would suppling battery power directly to PTO switch and bypassing NMIR result in switch working.
    • trident
      Electric PTO
      By trident
      Need some help. My 800 Special has an electric PTO. It is not working. Checked Ohms - nothing. My questions are 1) how does the PTO come off and 2) can they be rebuilt? I took the bolt out that I thought holds it on but no luck. Must be something more?
    • BMW1
      D180 Front PTO rotation
      By BMW1
      What direction does the front PTO Pulley turn on a wheel horse D180 with a Kohler K482 as you face the front of the tractor?
       
      I want to get a hydraulic pump for a Johnson 10 loader I will be mounting to tractor and want to make sure I get a pump that rotates the correct direction.
       
       
       
×
×
  • Create New...