Wheel Horse Kid 105 #1 Posted January 8, 2014 Does anyone know the model number list for the Belgium made C160's? I have a friend in Norway and we are trying to figure out what model and year his tractor is, but the only source I have is the American model number list. He believes he has a C160 (I believe he does too as it looks like a C160, has a 16hp, and has C160 decals), but he would like to know for sure that is what it is. He thinks the model number is 71-15KS or KG and the serial number is 151437. His engine spec number is 71128A and serial number is 7461494. Also, will America C160 parts interchange with Belgium C160 tractors? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Taylor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,145 #2 Posted January 8, 2014 Probably a 71-16K8 which is a 1977 / 16hp / Kohler / 8 speed You can use USA model numbers 71-16K801 or 71-16K802 to look up parts. Engine serial number denotes 1976 - which is right in line for a 1977 model year machine. To my knowledge, USA / Belgium models share most all parts except the steering wheel and seat - and some decals. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel Horse Kid 105 #3 Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Probably a 71-16K8 which is a 1977 / 16hp / Kohler / 8 speed You can use USA model numbers 71-16K801 or 71-16K802 to look up parts. Engine serial number denotes 1976 - which is right in line for a 1977 model year machine. To my knowledge, USA / Belgium models share most all parts except the steering wheel and seat - and some decals. Thank You Terry! The info is very much appreciated! Edited January 8, 2014 by Wheel Horse Kid 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,161 #4 Posted January 8, 2014 I believe it was Vincent that posted this Belgium list Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,145 #5 Posted January 8, 2014 I haven't seen much difference in most of the model numbers on Vinnie's list when compared to the USA list. Regardless of what list is used, the "15" would have been a dead end: He thinks the model number is 71-15KS or KG I did screw up though..... the "S" could very well be an "S" for Sundstrand hydro. The Belgium-built tractor ID numbers I have seen are normally shorter (no "parts list code") - like the one on Sutty's C-140: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lars 526 #6 Posted January 8, 2014 my C160 has 1-0381 but that is a 8 speed.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel Horse Kid 105 #7 Posted January 8, 2014 Thanks guys for the info. Judgeing from Vincent's list and what Terry said, I think he has a 1977 C160. He told me that the model number on the tractor was pretty beat up and he could not make it all out, so I am sure he could have made a mistake with it. Being as it has the C160 decals, the correct 16hp and serial number for the engine, and has mostly the correct model number, I for sure think it is a '77 C160. Thanks again for the help guys! I am sure my friend will appreciate it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Wheel Horse Kid 105 #9 Posted January 8, 2014 I am sure my friend will appreciate it! Did you tell him about our little site? We have a huge member base in Europe. Mike...... Yep, I am planning to tell him about RedSquare Mike. Lars thinks he may actually know my friend! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 2,619 #10 Posted January 8, 2014 I haven't seen much difference in most of the model numbers on Vinnie's list when compared to the USA list. Regardless of what list is used, the "15" would have been a dead end: He thinks the model number is 71-15KS or KG I did screw up though..... the "S" could very well be an "S" for Sundstrand hydro. The Belgium-built tractor ID numbers I have seen are normally shorter (no "parts list code") - like the one on Sutty's C-140: Terry, I can't recall any missing the 01/02/91/92 on the end at all - I probably haven't paid much attention either. There are two types of Belgium ID plate though, I'm thinking the early codes from 76 - where they started to code date engine and transmission probably missed the end of due to the stamp not having enough characters. Pretty well everything from 1978 onwards from Amnor had 91 or 92 on the end. Unless any Euro guys chip in with a different story... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,145 #11 Posted January 8, 2014 I agree Mark. I was thinking of the 1976 / 77 models and not the newer machines. The Belgium model number list that would be a real find would be one from the "old days". (at least pre-Toro) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 2,619 #12 Posted January 8, 2014 The list Vincent posted was a good find, but it is a very close match to the list Garry and others have compiled. I have been slowly compiling a list too on my site which tries to cover only the models that found their way into Europe - I've added many entries that do not show on other lists. http://wheel-horse.co.uk/models2.htm Rather foolishly I have failed to highlight which factory they were assembled in - that would have been very useful!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,145 #13 Posted January 8, 2014 Two models that immediately come to mind are the 706 and the C-140. Neither are on any list I have seen, but they do exist. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 2,619 #14 Posted January 8, 2014 does anyone have pictures or model numbers? I can add them to the site... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,145 #15 Posted January 8, 2014 The 1966 706 is simply a T-706 (built in South Bend, IN, USA - for export only?) The only C-140 I have "seen" is the one belonging to the ID tag I posted above. Here's where you'll find the C-140 pics: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel Horse Kid 105 #16 Posted January 8, 2014 Very interesting info guys. I am glad I went on this mission for my friend as I have learned alot about Belgium tractors through researching and your guy's help. I did not even know there was a model 706 or C140 ever made! I still believe that my friend has a 1977 C160 Auto as he tractor checked out with everything. Like I said before, I think that the difference in the model numbers is due to the fact that my friend could not make out his model number for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites