spindle upgrade to 4 stud

[Lars 526]

Hey..

i have done some upgrade on the horse and put on 4 bolt's on the front wheel's.. i have been thinking of that for a long time but never found the right part's for it..

but i finaly found a trailer hub kit that i bought... So here are som pict of what i did..

that axel was about 10 inch long so i had to cut it down to the right lenght.. and then i drilled a hole innside it about 1.5 inch

and then it fit's on the original 3/4 spindel.

And time to cut some more

and both ready for some welding Finish whit welding time to try them on the tractor..

and as you can see they also has a greasepoint..

had some 10 inch trailer wheels that i put on so i could move the tractor and wait to ill got the other tires mounted on the rim's

and finaly they are on the tractor Going to paint the rim's later dont have the time to fix that atm.. other project's whit higer priority..

Lars

[meadowfield 2,570]

Awesome!

We like 4 stud upgrades, makes it much more agricultural :D

[Don1977 604]

I like your engineering. I did something similar to mine 24 years ago. Had a front wheel that would not keep the bearing tight and cut up my spindle. The tires wouldn't hold air, I just changed everything. I had to tighten the right front bearing a couple of months ago is the only thing

I have done since the change. I know you will like the new hubs. I have 6 ply rated tires on mine and it steers a lot better.

 

[fireman 1,021]

Don't mean to hijack your thread but I did the same thing this spring but went one step further. The 3/4" original spindles are inherently weak so I added a piece of steel to beef it up so they don't bend over time. Just thought I'd add this tip for you or anyone else who plans on doing this. I've seen others do this modification without the additional support and over time they tend to bend upwards with larger or wider tires added. I also bored out the new spindles so that the entire original spindles fit down deep in them instead of cutting them short.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[KC9KAS 4,741]

All you guys have done an excellent job of up-grading your front spindles!

[pacer 3,168]

Both those mods are neat! and shows 2 different approaches...

 

I'll add a 3rd one to the mix (I bet somebody will get some ideas from one of them - or all!)

 

I took the method that forum member juss10 used and made mine from scratch -- heres a couple pics

 

 

[groundhog47 347]

Nice work all you guys, certainly makes a Welsh into a Clysdale!

[Trouty56 565]

All good looking end results......I surely can't build one like pacer but then he didn't have to deal with a 1" spindle......I like the the support welded onto the spindle...seems like it would help with the weight of the tractor and attachments.....nice job all......

I really need a friend that could drill a spindle for me.....lol....been looking and think the parts are only 60 bucks with shipping.....guess I can pay the machinist.....thanks for the great ideas.

[Anglo Traction 761]

Great front end Mod all of you Guys. I also remember Kevin (kpthorsefan) did the same thing in the UK
Also, because they were Trailer Stub Axles, it meant narrow wheels were easily available and the Tri Ribs fitted great.
A very neat job Lars/Gents

[953 nut 54,999]

   A few years back I had a 3/4" spindle that was badley worn so I picked up some steel 1" OD by 3/4" ID mechanical tubing, heated the tubing to expand it and presseded it onto the bad spindles. Then I put brass bushings over that at the axle seal area. Trailer hubs went on and a fender washer and grease cup took care of the outside end. Fireman makes a good point about reinforsing them, may do that.

 

                                 

[over60pirate 24]

I have been wanting to put larger tires/wheels on my 414-8. For some reason it has 6" tires, not 8" as I hear it should.

I have a set of hubs/axles/tires, just waiting to be installed. Got to find someone with a lathe to bore the stub axles out.

Great jobs on the mods.

[leeave96 487]

Nice work!

 

Don't know how I missed this thread!  I've got a 520H with 1 inch spindles/rims and the previous owner managed to run-over one of the front wheels with a big farm tractor, so the rim is massively bent and un-useable.  I've been looking for another 1 inch spindle'd rim from a donor/parts 520H, but have been unsuccessful and have been thinking about doing the 4 bolt hub/rim deal.  Problem so far is - I can't really find a hub that will just slide over the 1 inch shaft on my Wheelhorse.  Most are 1-1/16 inch or bigger.

 

Thanks!

Bill

[Kelly 1,029]

This swap is real easy on a 520 with the swept axle no mods at all, Moat trailer shops will carry 1" hubs my local TSC has them, only thing I had to buy extra was a few 1" shim washers so when the castle nut was adjusted a cotter pin fit in the slots in the nut, then I bought golf cart rims that are 5 3/8" wide like the stock rims, these are centered for the offset but you can get other offsets, I have done this to a couple 520's, well axles that is, this set up is on my C-195 diesel project but has a 520 axle in it. 

 

[leeave96 487]

Kelly - I was at both tractor supply and northern tool last night. The smallest diameter hub TCS had was 1-1/16 and the smallest hub I could find at northern tool was 1 inch, but the seal diameter was 1-1/4. The seal diameter on my 520H spindle is 1-1/8.

With the tires, hubs and rim offset you used, is here any interference with the mowing decks?

Thanks!

Bill

[Kelly 1,029]

If it's only a seal issue go to Napa or other good auto parts store and find a seal, I don't mow with my 520's I have a nice little 265H that does my mowing. 

 

Are you sure your sealing area is 1 1/8" ?? just looking at my pic above it looks bigger than that, the seal ring also slides off the spindle

Edited December 29, 2013 by Kelly

[leeave96 487]

If it's only a seal issue go to Napa or other good auto parts store and find a seal, I don't mow with my 520's I have a nice little 265H that does my mowing.

Are you sure your sealing area is 1 1/8" ?? just looking at my pic above it looks bigger than that, the seal ring also slides off the spindle

Definitely 1-1/8 diameter.

Good idea on napa. I probably could cross/use the same seal on the stock rim.

[sorekiwi 761]

Surplus centre has hubs to suit a 1" spindle.  http://www.surpluscenter.com/Wheels/Spindles-Wheel-Hubs/5-BOLT-LOW-SPEED-HUB-W-BEARINGS-1-3747.axd

 

These are 5 bolt hubs that I bought for my JD front axle, but they do a 4 bolt as well.

 

Fairly sure that Northern has them as well.

[Trouty56 565]

Surplus centre has hubs to suit a 1" spindle.  http://www.surpluscenter.com/Wheels/Spindles-Wheel-Hubs/5-BOLT-LOW-SPEED-HUB-W-BEARINGS-1-3747.axd

 

These are 5 bolt hubs that I bought for my JD front axle, but they do a 4 bolt as well.

 

Fairly sure that Northern has them as well.

I saw these in the catalog....this is the ticket....narrow 4.0/8 rims....tri ribs.....just need the spindles bored.....gasp!!!

[flyovrcntry 115]

You guy's that do machine work amaze me.I am a pretty fair mechanic,mostly taught by my dad and uncle,and of course trial and a lot of errors.My father-in-law was a machinist for a steel co.He had a little shop at home and it was surprising what he could do.Folks would come to him to make parts for their old farm tractors and implements that were obsolete.This was before ebay and sites like this were here to find parts.He was a good man,I never thougt about it at the time,but I know he never charged them enough for what he did.

[JoeM 7,871]

I went a slightly different way. I purchased a set of 520H front axles on e-bay, bored the original front axle to 1" and installed the new 1" units with 4 bolt trailer hubs, wheels and tires.

[invisybill 1]

Thanks for all the help Folks!!!