Its common for a tire to get stuck on the rim, but......

[pacer 3,168]

Its sure not uncommon for a rim to get rusty and be a pill to get the tire off and I've had some doozies, but this bad boy sure stomped my B***.

 

The story - My D-180 fronts were getting cracked and have been threatening to do something about it and having read about some of the mods putting split rims etc on, I had been toying with that route when I added new tires. So I walk by this old yard trailer I've had for some 25yrs and be doggone if it didnt have split rims on a 3/4" axle Whoa!, bet that'll fit the D and sure enough they did only needing a small spacer. OK, so I'll get those old tires off there and clean them up and with new tires get them on the 'Big D' -- no problem, right?

 

The first one was bad enough but after about an hour of sweatin n cussin got it apart. Then the 2nd one.. whew, about an hour and half got one side off but after another couple hours the other one just wasnt gonna come off. The tire was too dry rotted anyway so I'll just cut it off ... but how? trying to cut rubber can be a challenge, it IS rubber and jumps around all over the place, and while cut off wheel will do it you will need a gas mask from all the smoke. Decided on the skil saw. Getting through the steel cording was a bit of a pill and ended up using a cutoff disc to get through that, but then the skill saw just went right through the rest of the tire. And man, could I see why that tire wasnt gonna come off, what a build up of rust!

 

The rims are pretty pitted up but after sand blasting they look good enough to go ahead and use them --- I worked too hard to get em!!

 

Ahhh, the things we do for our horses....

[CNCJerry 5]

Yep the tire can rust to the wheel and be a real pain to get off. One trick I use lay the tire and wheel flat in the driveway and use a heave vhecial to run over the rubber to unseat the bead, repeat until the rubber can be removed from the wheel.

[oldblue1993 98]

The fight against a tire can sure be a challenge, but when you win and show it who the boss is, that's like winning a lottery. Nice job on it, hats off to you.

[woodchuckfarmer 333]

Get yourself an old bumper jack , it will do wonders at breaking the bead down.....just my 2 cents

[546cowboy 301]

That is why I always start by spraying Blaster around the rim and bead. Let it soak awhile and spray it again. I have cut a tire off a rim before and never again.

[specialwheelhorse 174]

I have very discretly burned a couple off, it also strips the wheel quit well !!!

[brandonozz 168]

Yes they can be a challenge to get off and sometimes get the new ones on. The last ones on my D were changed at a tire shop and the tire machine wouldn't break the tire off the rim. We ended up holding it with the machine and beating with sledge hammers (carefully). Getting the new ones on was another challenge - even worse really. With half the rim being larger diameter it was a bear!

For the money the shop wants ($12 to dismount and remount two tires) I will let them do them every time.

[pacer 3,168]

OK, I give up!! :angry-cussingwhite:   This tire/spindle swap just aint gonna work!

 

On getting the rust/scale off the rims I knew they were pretty bad but thought would be OK, but on getting a good coat of primer applied I spotted a couple hairline cracks around the spindle mount bolt holes. So, no biggie, Ill just tack weld them and go on --- when I applied heat the cracks multiplied .... and multiplied ...and... after about the 4th time to close off the cracks, I gave up. Dang that was a lot of work to have it end like that.

 

Oh well... it just beeees that way sometimes.

Edited September 2, 2013 by pacer

[AMC RULES 37,127]

Sorry for your loss.    

[Pullstart 62,772]

too late now, but I just did my rears yesterday... I used a heavy bench vice to pinch the tire off the wheel.  once one bead broke I used a plate of steel on that side to bite the rim harder and squeeze the tire off the beaded side.  works good in the garage, looking forward to my fronts now!

[pacer 3,168]

Yes, a large bench vise was the only way I accomplished what I did - pinch the tire in as far as the jaws would take it and added 2 10" C clamps on the side of that and then with a BFH worked along the compressed part, which gave me the 3 rim halves off with much effort leaving that last one to resist all I could come up with.

[dyt4000 2]

I just changed the two front tires on my Farmall Cub with a Harbor Freight Small Tire Changer and it worked quite well. My beads were rusted to the wheel and with a little work the popped off.

 

http://www.harborfreight.com/portable-tire-changer-69686.html

 

Couldn't have done the job without it I believe. They were really rusted.

[pacer 3,168]

I have seen that changer in the HF flyers but never saw it at the store --- Hmmm, and I just happen to have planned a trip there today armed with a 25% coupon. After this last 'encounter' I think that may be just the thing!

[oldblue1993 98]

 Hey not to jump in here but I have one of those HF tire changers and yea I had to beaf it up a bit but it works great also got the bigger one and I have no trouble changing tires all the way up to 16" even use it on aluminum rims. Just my 2 cents but well worth it

[Wheel-N-It 2,968]

I use the 6 foot scrape blade on my big tractor. I back the tractor into the shop, lay the blade down on the tire just at the rim, then I stand on the blade and jump up and down a couple of times ( adding another 225lbs ). This method works every time for me.

[Pullstart 62,772]

I use the 6 foot scrape blade on my big tractor. I back the tractor into the shop, lay the blade down on the tire just at the rim, then I stand on the blade and jump up and down a couple of times ( adding another 225lbs ). This method works every time for me.

you suppose I could use this excuse to get a big tractor and a 6 foot scrape blade?

[SousaKerry 501]

This winter I tried to get a set of lawn ranger front split rims apart from the original tires, who woulda thought that a tire so small could hold on so tight...

 

Used a large vise, sorta worked got one side off each wheel and then went to the arbor press.  I got them off but I bent the s*&% out of the rims and had to hammer them back into shape.  They wobble a but now but look great in tri-ribs.

[Wheel-N-It 2,968]

 

I use the 6 foot scrape blade on my big tractor. I back the tractor into the shop, lay the blade down on the tire just at the rim, then I stand on the blade and jump up and down a couple of times ( adding another 225lbs ). This method works every time for me.

you suppose I could use this excuse to get a big tractor and a 6 foot scrape blade?

 

Absolutely !!!

[Marv 919]

Let me get this straight. You are 20 years old and jump up and down on blades for exercise.

Marvin

[Wheel-N-It 2,968]

Let me get this straight. You are 20 years old and jump up and down on blades for exercise.

Marvin

Well yeah, something like that. Lets just say I am 20 years old with 36 years of experience. LOL  ( 22 of those years with Wheel Horses )

[groundhog47 347]

OK, I give up!! :angry-cussingwhite:   This tire/spindle swap just aint gonna work!

 

On getting the rust/scale off the rims I knew they were pretty bad but thought would be OK, but on getting a good coat of primer applied I spotted a couple hairline cracks around the spindle mount bolt holes. So, no biggie, Ill just tack weld them and go on --- when I applied heat the cracks multiplied .... and multiplied ...and... after about the 4th time to close off the cracks, I gave up. Dang that was a lot of work to have it end like that.

 

Oh well... it just beeees that way sometimes.

Bill, don't get too disgruntled, we'll find some good ones somewhere and you know you can have these last ones we got, but will need a hub. The tires aren't terrible, but a might bit slick and that width may look comfortable on the D