Sparky-(Admin) 21,300 #26 Posted November 16, 2008 Cool!! Just might be the first Turbo Wheel Horse in existence . Will it be mounted sideways so it can drive the tranny? Or do you have some other diabolical plan? Mike...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #27 Posted November 16, 2008 And just whats wrong with Ford there mr ian... see there I was just starting to really dig all your projects... At least it doesn't have Ford written in big letters on the rocker cover I think it just feels strange to be putting a Ford lump and not a Kohler in a WH. Don't worry Mike, i have a cunning/diabolical plan in mind The engine will run front to back with a hydraulic pump somewhere between my legs to power the wheels. A bit like Jim's (Mith) setup on his Hydrobeast, but more wheels and less bending in the middle :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ 175 #28 Posted November 16, 2008 Looks like fun to me. Can you adapt the hood so you don't have to modify it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #29 Posted November 22, 2008 Cheers Mich, yes it's gong to be fun It's looking like i am going modify the hood a bit, but not too much I will need to lengthen it a bit and maybe widen it by an inch or two.. Oh, and a grill for the engine's radiator might be handy as well Well the latest new's is, the engine and trans are out of Betsie the pick-up Removing it was quite fun using a jack and quite few blocks of wood.. Guess who sold his engine hoist and tripod during the summer thinking it would never be needed again Of course i couldn't of moved the engine without help from my 312-8 and an old 4 wheeled trolley A closer view... The trans has now been removed from the engine. No post from me would be complete without a daft photo............ So.. here it is The next job to do is to pull the trans apart and see how much of it i can use to get the power from the engine to a hydraulic pump.. With the full length of the engine and "drive extra" worked out, i can finally start on the chassis work :banana: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ 175 #30 Posted November 22, 2008 :hide: Keep the pictures coming. This is one I've got to see. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimD 3,345 #31 Posted November 22, 2008 hey ian, is that gonna be a recoil start? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #32 Posted November 23, 2008 No recoil start Jim, I was thinking of a kick start :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TR_DIGGER 3 #33 Posted November 23, 2008 daft photo... GOTA LOVE IT! Keep up the good work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #34 Posted December 16, 2008 Evening all, sorry for my lack of updates of late but it's been a hell of a month with one problem after another coming up That's life i guess, fingers crossed things are settling down again. So, "what has been happening with Project 6x6x6", i hear you ask? Not as much as id of liked is the answer, but things have been moving on in a "grinder cutting/welding sparking/oo-er it's going to be big" kinda way... At last work has started on the chassis But first a quick jump back to almost where i left off.. the engine, well close to the engine, the trans. I have never cracked open a car trans before and it took a lot of ing to work out how it all come apart so i could get the trans input shaft that i need to fit into the clutch plate. The input shaft is the one at the back just to the left of the half a cog Having made a mess on the bench, thoughts turned to making a mess else where with the chassis The next two photo's should give you an idea on quite how big the Turbo D engine is The chassis is what's left of a 1971 Raider 10. Time to strip the 314-8.. Starting with this on the bench.. With the help of who else but Garry.. And me finding rusty bits.... The 314-8 soon looked like this. A quick clean of all the mess we had made on the bench, then it was mock-up time. The 314-8 and 71 Raider chassis are end to end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #35 Posted December 17, 2008 Before you read on if the thought of seeing a WH being cut up, upsets you it might be best to look away now. I want this build to still be a WH (ok, a WH with a bigger engine and more wheels) which means using as many WH parts as i can. And to me that means using the 314's chassis. If i made up a new chassis, to me it just wouldn't be a WH, if you know what i mean. Enough of me rambling on... Time for some work.. The trans mounting plates were cut off both the chassis, they were then welded together. Another quick mock-up to check the chassis was going to be long enough. I quite like the "low rider engine" look, but not much good for ground clearance Back on the bench it was and smoke time while trying to work out how to mount the engine and how wide would the chassis need to be HHmmm... maybe the pick-ups front cross member with engine mounts might help A bit more cutting later and the chassis is suddenly looking a lot wider After lots of ing and measuring a way was worked out of mounting the cross member to the chassis rails.. In the end i just needed to cut a slot each side of the cross member A quick measure of the engine.. And the cross member was tacked in place. Moving forward a front cross member was needed.. The sparks followed.. Followed by some red hot clamping action And some welding with the magical sparkling stick machine.. A cross member was born Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69DEZ 4 #36 Posted December 17, 2008 I always look forward to reading your posts!!! Keep the pictures coming!!! :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick 13 #37 Posted December 17, 2008 Was just thinking this morning that we hadnt seen a Stig Vid or picture in a while. Looking like the 6x6 is going to be a monster. Dont need to tell ya how I like them sparkly pictures. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BairleaFarm 340 #38 Posted December 17, 2008 Looks like your moving right along. I think it will be a cool little tractor when you get it done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #39 Posted December 17, 2008 This made me happy, the radiator fit's a treat This photo kinda gives a hint of what this beast of a WH will look like... A big bit of box section was welding on for the rear cross member, but for some reason i forgot to take any pic's of the action The only way to get a good photo was to take the chassis outside. So here it is.. It's 34 1/4 inches wide. And...... a few inches longer than me er... long That's all for now folks.. Im on the lookout for some more of that big box section steel for putting some strength into, or should i say under the WH chassis rails. Once that's done, its drop the engine in time :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canam1991 2 #40 Posted December 17, 2008 You should make the hood wider also.... :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #41 Posted December 17, 2008 I always look forward to reading your posts!!! Keep the pictures coming!!! Des I will try and add pic's as and when things happen. Was just thinking this morning that we hadnt seen a Stig Vid or picture in a while Yeah, sorry Nick, it has been a while Im half way through editing the latest vid, hope to have it done over the next few days Looks like your moving right along. I think it will be a cool little tractor when you get it done Thanks David, the build is getting there slowly. Im not sure about the 314 being a little build, the bench Im building it on is going to be a bit too small when the wheels go on You should make the hood wider also.... Funny you should say the canam... The hood needs to be widened by a few inches (not enough to cover the rad though) and lengthening by quite a bit. If my measuring was right i shouldn't have to make the hood any taller, but time will tell on that one :party: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #42 Posted December 21, 2008 A very small update for you Guys as it's been a bit of a quiet week down the ol Shack. Four strengthening plate were cut and welded to help keep the X member where it should be. I also thought Id drop the engine into the chassis to see how it fitted and to try and work out a rear mount. Lifting the engine was fun using only a couple of scaffold boards, some ratchet straps and a trolley jack (thanks for your help Pete), but we got the job done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #43 Posted December 21, 2008 Looks pretty radical Ian look fwd when its complete! :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #44 Posted December 29, 2008 :omg: Duke, yes it should be a bit er.. different when it's finished Not much of an update this time, more of a move around.. and up The engine and chassis are now on the bench at a nice working height, although fitting the stack could be a problem as the roof gets in the way The first part of the move was to get the chassis and engine up to bench height. A big thank you to Adam (my stepson and quite a good welder) and Pete for helping Later this afternoon this project got the lift it needed on to the bench. Cheers Adam, Garry and Rob for risking your backs lifting this heavy metal lump Moving back a bit here's the trans input shaft roughly in place with the help of one end of the trans cash that Adam sliced off. It's going to be fun getting pulley bolted onto the end of the shaft.. I feel some lathe time coming up soon Last photo for today, the chassis blocked up on the bench at almost the right ride height. The chassis needs to go up an inch or two, but not much. That's all for now folks, tune back for more metal mayhem :party: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #45 Posted December 29, 2008 ....tune back for more metal mayhem Sounds like a good name for a band...so, Ian, would that be what the young folks call....heavy metal? Duff :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #46 Posted January 4, 2009 Im not sure that "youngsters" know what heavy metal or even rock music is these days. All they seem to want to listen to is lots of beeping noises with some bloke "talking" thinking he's singing Or am i just getting old Enough of me moaning, on with the build As the front engine mounts were sorted, i thought i was time the rear mount was built. As ever wanting to save money the original trans mount from the pick-up was dragged from the pile of parts in the corner. Cant wait to get this build finished so i can get all the parts piles out the way and have some space back. Or maybe i should just have a good tidy up instead As nice as the trans mount is, it wasn't quite wide enough So here's my Stepson Adam cutting up an old angle iron fence post that Pete found behind his shed Some measuring, cutting and not so great welding later the mounting X member was plonked on the chassis. I made this bolt on tow hitch for an old Westwood many years ago and it has been sitting in the "might come in handy one day" box for a long long time.. Well, It's time had finally come After lot's of cutting and a tad of welding the bits of box looked like this. The bit of box that goes straight up in the photo had a big nut welded on the end before it was welded into the bit of box that runs side to side in the photo. Great description eh Ta-Daa the mount tacked in place As well as the mount being welded to what's left of the trans case, a bit of bar was welded into a hole on the trans case and the mount welded to that. Every bit of strength helps, so it was fully welded up just after this pic was taken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #47 Posted January 4, 2009 Going back to the X-member, if you thought that it needed more strengthening... You'd be right Four bit of steel were cut to help tie the bits on angle to the pick-up's X-member. Here's a couple of them tacked in their new home It's a good feeling to know the engine is "in" :banana: Last photo from the back of the engine for now, a close up of the what i now call the "engine output shaft" so you can see the fun it's gong to be making this shaft longer to fit pulleys onto The plan at the moment is to machine a shaft that's a very tight fit in the hole, and should stay straight while the two shafts are welding together. If you Guys have any ideas or suggestions on this shaft joining lark, Id love to hear them Thought's then turned to something cool......... Yep, the cooling system or to me more precise mounting the radiator Here's one of the bottom mounts very roughly in place. Simple to make, only a plate with a bolt welded through the middle. Just weld the plate to a bit of box A quick rummage through my many tins of "odds n sod's" unearthed a couple of kawasaki Z200 mounting rubbers that fitted a treat You didn't really think i build something with using motorbike parts somewhere did you? A very short walk later and we find ourselves at the pillar drill doing some chain drilling. Note to one's self... Buy some new drill bits Some cold chisel and filing work later and two bit's of plate were sitting on the chassis with mounting rubbers through them... But can you guess where they go If you guessed they are top radiator mounts.. you be right If you guessed wrong, good on ya for having a guess anyway And i shall leave you with a photo of a couple more plates cut to size... But no clues as to where they go until the next update As ever, for taking to time to read my rambling More to follow soon.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimD 3,345 #48 Posted January 4, 2009 Ian, you are ... "The Fabricator Extroardinere"...(thingy) :banana: looking forward to the next update. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,300 #49 Posted January 4, 2009 As allways that was some great reading Ian! For some reason I end up trying to read your posts using an English accent ( So glad none of you can hear me ). Of course its looking great and is allway fun to see where you've gotton since your last post. Are you putting any rubber in the motor mounts? Seems like it might vibrate your teeth out and anything else thats hangin loosely ! Mike......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ 175 #50 Posted January 4, 2009 When Charles Dickens was writting "Great Expectations", people would line the shores of Boston Harbor when a ship would arrive with the latest chapter. Dicken's books were serialized back then,and the anticipation was emmence. He also got paid by the word, which explains the thickness of his novels. I don't think I am alone when I say, "you are the Dickens of Red Square." I am looking forward with great expectations to the next chapter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites