8hp briggs wheel horse or troy bilt (or both)?

[bean 85]

I bought this 8hp briggs from a neighbor. it needs the carb cleaned (maybe, I haven't tried to start it yet)).

he said it came from a troy bilt horse tiller. I was wondering if it would also fit an 800 special or other briggs powered wh

 the # is 195432 0278 01

it has a shaft that is 1 1/8" for the first inch, then steps down to 1".

looks to be in good shape. sat on a garage shelf forever.   

[oldredrider 2,553]

I would think it would fit most any smaller Briggs powered Horse as they have the 1" shaft.

The Commando 800 used an 8hp Kohler with a 1"shaft shaft, so it might just drop in if the vertical height is the same. Shimming it up or down is an option too.

[bean 85]

that stepped shaft has me wondering if you could install a pto.   it's 1- 1/8" for the 1st inch, which is the size of the kohler 10-16hp's.

the remainder is 1", which is the size of the kohler 8hp.  maybe a combination of the 2 pto's

[oldredrider 2,553]

Maybe try a mock up and see how it aligns. The crank can be turned down if necessary.

The motor "looks" good...use it if you can.

[b112restoreman 1]

The motor looks like its in great shape for its age 

[bean 85]

it is in good shape, but I sold it.

actually, I took off the shroud to clean the starter recoil , and can tell you that it is not in the same league as a k series kohler.  the sheet metal is much thinner  , as well as the bits and pieces of the engine. I know the crank,bearings, etc on the briggs are up to the task, it's just all the little attention-to-detail  things that stand out.

I was talking to a gentleman about a k series that he had, and he made the comment that there will never be another engine built like it again. I think he is right. look at the k141. who would build a cast iron 6 hp engine that weighs 70 lbs and  could probably last 100 yrs, with maintenance and a few refresheners along the way.

Edited August 18, 2013 by bean

[rick 238]

I don't know what Troy-Bilt Tiller that engine would have come off, the PTO crankshaft end on a Troy-Bilt is 2 5/16" long, and 3/4 inch in diameter.

[bean 85]

Rick,

it isn't from a troy bilt. the gentleman that I bought it from thought that it was. he has a troy bilt horse and bought this as a replacement. he just assumed that because they looked the same, it would fit, but the 1" shaft is the wrong size. I was on the troy bilt site and was told that several people have had their pulleys bore to 1" to fit this particular engine. I sold it for $50. it it was from a troy bilt tiller, it would be worth $200

[rick 238]

I goofed, too when I bought a Kohler Magnum 8 without looking closely. It has a 1" shaft, and is not drilled for the 2 9/16" mounting bolt pattern. The bosses are there, but not drilled. I will take the engine and a spare Horse motor mount to my machinist and get his take on the deal....I have as many Troy-Bilt Horses as I do Wheel Horses!

[B&SGovernot 0]

On 8/18/2013 at 6:06 AM, rick said:

I don't know what Troy-Bilt Tiller that engine would have come off, the PTO crankshaft end on a Troy-Bilt is 2 5/16" long, and 3/4 inch in diameter.

These would have came off of Troy's Super Tomohawk Mulcher I believe. Mine had this B&S SAE J607 8HP