ScottBurner 3 #1 Posted May 10, 2013 Hello, New member from Finland. I have been thinking about fixing my grandfathers old Commano 8, so that's how I found this forum. It hasn't been used for about 20-25 years. It is dirty and a bit rusty but I think all parts are still in place... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 542 #2 Posted May 10, 2013 to Red Square!!!! Nice looking Commando 8! You will find tons of information here as well as plenty of people to help you out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,580 #3 Posted May 10, 2013 Glad to have you aboard. That's a nice Commando 8. Looks great for the age, and all original (except maybe the muffler). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottBurner 3 #4 Posted May 10, 2013 Thanks Guys! I noticed from pictures that original muffler shorter and round. I think my next agenda is to find out the condition of the engine. It has been stored in a shed in sea climate, so there is a chance that cylinder and piston might be rusty. Is there a way to find out that without taking the engine apart? Take the sparkplug out and try to peek in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,088 #5 Posted May 10, 2013 Interested in knowing what is on your ID plate below the dash housing in the last picture. And was it made in Belgium or USA? Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottBurner 3 #6 Posted May 10, 2013 Here is a picture of the ID plate: Engine was K181S, S meaning electric start? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #7 Posted May 10, 2013 Your tractor info...from the model list here on the forum... 1-4831 1968 Lawn & Garden Tractor Commando 8 4-Speed Kohler K181S-30108D 8 Wheel Horse 5053 Looks like your Grandfather's Commando left the factory in , then shipped to Finland at some point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,398 #8 Posted May 10, 2013 Looks like it was well taken care of and is a great candidate to do a resto on. Mike............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-100 Dan 7 #9 Posted May 11, 2013 Welcome to Red Square, and I agree that is a very nice looking tractor when you consider its age. If you think it might be rusty inside cylinder, I would try to turn motor over just a little by hand each way. if it moves maybe a little lube oil in cylinder, as it may be dry, just a little though. If you have spark, put fresh fuel in it, and I'll bet it will fire right up. Good luck, that is a nice find. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottBurner 3 #10 Posted May 11, 2013 Thank you all! This forum was a great find with all the information you have put together. I spent couple of hours yesterday reading restoration threads, they are excellent. I was also happy to notice that there are lots of parts available for these old things. Reading the manuals, I was suprised how many attachable things were available. Like lawnmower, snowplow and all other things you might need in a garder or on a field. We have a cutterthingy (need to find correct name for it) that is mounted in front of the tractor. I believe it is for cutting long hay. Then we also have trailer. Forgot to take pictures of it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #11 Posted May 11, 2013 Hi Scott?, Good to have another Euro-member aboard.. welcome to the madhouse Your Commando 8 looks in great condition for all those years storage.. That's an interesting exhaust set-up, wonder what it sounds like!! I'm with B-100 Dan about your engine.. I'd take the spark plug out, squirt a bit of oil down the bore and see if the engine turns over by hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wh1257 226 #12 Posted May 11, 2013 nice looking tractor and welcome to redsqaure it looks like a pretty orginal tractor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,088 #13 Posted May 11, 2013 Here is a picture of the ID plate: Engine was K181S, S meaning electric start? That is the highest serial for a 1-4831 of the 27 recorded so far. One of those was made in Belgium so suspect it was later than yours and possibly a 1969 model. Manual Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #14 Posted May 11, 2013 Where are the serial numbers being recorded? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 761 #15 Posted May 11, 2013 Hi and to RS . Great to see a Commando 8 in such good unmolested condition and to the proper Spec. Look's like you have done your Homework on finding Information on it. Plenty of experts on here if you need any guidance. I think many here will agree that from your pictures, the paintwork look's like it will scrub up nicely. Your Grandfather obviously took great care of it . My guess is that the Engine will also be good. Sounds like you have some good attachments too. Look forward to more pics. Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wheeledhorseman 574 #16 Posted May 11, 2013 Welcome to it's always good to have another Euro member join us. That's a great looking tractor you've got there and I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't too dificult to get it running again despite all the years that it has been in storgage. Be warned though - it all begins with one Wheel Horse, then you just have to get another, and another! Andy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 2,593 #17 Posted May 11, 2013 Thats fab, welcome to the forum! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,088 #18 Posted May 11, 2013 Where are the serial numbers being recorded? They are in a Database Table in the 1st Yahoo Manuals Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wheelhorsetractormanuals/ Don't know how long it will last because not long ago Yahoo stated that each table can have a maximum of 1000 lines. This one is at 5040 now and growing. If you have not used one of these tables before first take a look at a text file in the Files explaining how you can use it. A set of instructions for using a Database Table Sort by the column of your choice and click on "Printable Report". All 5040 lines will open on one page so you can quickly scroll through it. Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 9,981 #19 Posted May 12, 2013 'Ow do and welcome Scott. Nice little tractor and lucky man to have a trailer and cutter bar as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 12 #20 Posted May 16, 2013 Welcome to the forum Scott, thats a nice Commando 8, I have got a Belgian built one here in the UK... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,287 #21 Posted May 26, 2013 Love the Muffler! WHOOOMBAH!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottBurner 3 #22 Posted May 27, 2013 Thanks for the comments. Tractor is at my uncles place and I haven't been there for a while. Hope to get there in a week or two. Kohler manual says sparkplug is Champion RJ8C. I guess this is old type and might not be available. Any recommendations for a new sparkplug? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottBurner 3 #23 Posted June 10, 2013 Got to the Horse this weekend. Engine turns by hand so I borrowed battery from a lawnmower. Tried to start with startermotor, that works also. Sparkplug gives a spark. Fueltank had some old fuel in it, smelled and looked funny. There was also some dirt in the tank so I emptied it. Fuel line didn't look good so gonna replace that. The drivebelt (?) from engine to gearbox is looking very dry and cracked. If I get the engine running, I think I'll try to get a belt from local machineshop. Pics of trailer and cutterbar coming soon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottBurner 3 #24 Posted July 1, 2013 Didn't start... Cleaned fueltank Changed fuelline Added fuelfilter Fresh fuel I think problem might be fuel pump, should test that next. Are there spares availble for that? Hood off Carb close-up Carburator serial no. Scary cutterbar 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #25 Posted July 1, 2013 Have you cleaned out the fuel bowl on the carb yet? Try starting it using a small spray of starting fluid, or carb cleaner directly into the carb opening... see what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites