flhharley 14 #1 Posted April 8, 2013 Trying to find out what year and model this is. My dad bout this in the 60' s sold it in 1983 and I just bought it back. Plan on restoring back close to original. But need to get more info. Are there numbers somewhere to tell me the year? I'm 99% sure it had a kouler 8 hp and I'm thinking from looking at pics a 1964/654 ??? Any help would be great. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jay in nc 210 #2 Posted April 8, 2013 that sure is a tough looking ride. I love it! Jay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,419 #3 Posted April 8, 2013 A few more close-up pictures would help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse'n Around 22 #4 Posted April 8, 2013 I love the fact that it was your Dads and you were able to get it back after all these years ! Restoring it will be a labor of love that's for sure,talk about a worthy and super fun endeavor ! Thanks for posting the pic, please keep us all posted on the whole thing! John 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flhharley 14 #5 Posted April 8, 2013 I will post some more pics but after searching around and knowing it was a kouler they made a 7 hp recoil and it has the same dash as the 1964 704. Where is the best place to get parts, paint, decals etc during my project??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #6 Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Once we nail down the model, members here will be able to help you find parts. There are a number of options as far as paint is concerned. The best source of decals by far is our own member Vinylguy52. That sure is a nice machine you've recovered! Duff Edited April 8, 2013 by Duff 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse'n Around 22 #7 Posted April 8, 2013 For your decals go to www.redoyourhorse.com. He's Vinylguy52 here on Red Square and he does incredible work ! Check it out. John Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH nut 553 #8 Posted April 8, 2013 Looks like a 704 to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Kuhn 1,554 #9 Posted April 8, 2013 that would be a 63 or a 64 model. It does not have the original motor on it, but that is pretty close. It would of only had a recoil starter on it most likely so the one on it now has probably been added at some point. maybe a 604, 654 or a 704? 63 models I'm not sure of the models? Hope this is somewhat helpful, sorry I can't give you a answer for sure. Jake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
octfst 378 #10 Posted April 8, 2013 I know what its like to have your dads tractor. I have both my dads horses. his 1970 Raider 12 he give me in 2005 & I restored in 2006. & his 1963 753 that I grew up on. he sold when he bought the raider about 25 years ago. the hood that is on your tractor was used on the 604 654 & 704 for the year of 1964. The 604 & 654 used 6hp teckys the 704 used a 7hp kohler. the 8hp kohler was used on the 854 but would have a different hood. check the tag on the flywheel shroud a k161 would be a 7hp kohler & a k181 would be a 8hp kohler. if its a k161 & this is the original engine it would be a 704 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimD 3,345 #11 Posted April 8, 2013 If it had an 8 hp Kohler with electric start and was built in 1964, that would make it an 854. The original engine would have had a starter/generator and a belt to start it. It looks like you have a newer engine with a starter motor, not the generator. I'm sure more information will be forthcoming from the experts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH nut 553 #12 Posted April 8, 2013 I know what its like to have your dads tractor. I have both my dads horses. his 1970 Raider 12 he give me in 2005 & I restored in 2006. & his 1963 753 that I grew up on. he sold when he bought the raider about 25 years ago. the hood that is on your tractor was used on the 604 654 & 704 for the year of 1964. The 604 & 654 used 6hp teckys the 704 used a 7hp kohler. the 8hp kohler was used on the 854 but would have a different hood. check the tag on the flywheel shroud a k161 would be a 7hp kohler & a k181 would be a 8hp kohler. if its a k161 & this is the original engine it would be a 704 It cant be the original 7hp, they were recoil start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,300 #13 Posted April 8, 2013 I'm probably all alone here, but I really like that paint scheme and the small racing steering wheel. I would be tempted to leave it as is and just bask in the fact that I own my dad's tractor regardless of the paint and motor. Mike.............. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puddlejumper 67 #14 Posted April 9, 2013 Kinda looks like a 64 lawn ranger on big tires. But I cannot tell if the choke and throttle controls are push pull or levers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 10,943 #15 Posted April 9, 2013 The best of luck to you as you restore this great memory! Great story to have your Dad's original tractor back in your ownership!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
64s 83 #16 Posted April 9, 2013 I'm with Sparky - I love it the way it is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flhharley 14 #17 Posted April 9, 2013 Thanks for all the responses. I am ver excited to get started on it. The motor has been changed to a kouler electric start but was a pull originally. My father has been passed now for 18 years but have to make a visit to mom I think she may have the original paperwork that came with it as he threw nothing out. Ha ha. That and she still has the cart that went with it and told me she wants it out of her garage. I will get some more pics posted so I know for all the knowledge her I'm getting the right parts. Thanks again 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torino 14 #18 Posted April 9, 2013 Since it was your dads I would want to restore it back to original but I do like the paint scheme. Would like to see more pics outside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leeave96 487 #19 Posted April 9, 2013 Since it was your dads I would want to restore it back to original but I do like the paint scheme. Would like to see more pics outside. +1 Also consider going to the Wheelhorse show in PA this year. That will get your interest in your Dad's old tractor up too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VinsRJ 721 #20 Posted April 9, 2013 Very nice tractor no matter what your plan is for it..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 542 #21 Posted April 9, 2013 I agree.. If it's your dad's tractor and that is they way he had it or you remember it then leave it as is; but if the last owner made the modifications then restore it back. BUT I love the color scheme too!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Engineer 859 #22 Posted April 9, 2013 Great looking tractor. Wecome to Red Square. I have my parents Commando 8 and wouldn't sell or trade it for anything. Like you, I had tracked it down after my mother sold it in 1984 and I purchased it from its 3rd owner, used it until last year and gave it a complete restoration. Good luck with your plans. Dave 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rdmanone 29 #23 Posted April 9, 2013 Beautiful tractor. Looks like you got luck and at least it was well taken care of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolhandblack 45 #25 Posted April 10, 2013 man that is cool as hell that it was your dads tractor... I agree with some of the others, restore it or keep it as is..what ever reminds you most of your old man 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites