HELP NEEDED!!! PAINT ISSUES....

[meadowfield 2,590]

Fairly certain the top one was just t cut and polished, not sure if you checked them out at Ardingly - but the finish is very good!

[Stigian 1,234]

It looks a very nice finish Mark.. Yep I did check them out at Ardingly, in fact I've just been looking through my Ardingly photos to check out the wheels colours..

Yep, cream certainly looks better than bright white 

 

Not wanting to hijack your thread Charlie but as there are a lot of knowledgeable people reading this I thought I would ask here... 

 

Is the red used on a 71 Raider the same red as used on all Wh's?  For some reason my brain is telling me it's a little darker?

[Charlie Smith 142]

Ah okay thanks guys.

Charlie.

[meadowfield 2,590]

My brother reckons the red on his raider was actually lighter than the later horses. My c-101 was a good match, but the paint was rubbish!

I think the Belgian factory did their own thing... Plus it could be a fergie grey thing, never two the same anyway :)

[Charlie Smith 142]

I too agree, I do believe the Belgian ones where made a slight different colour. I'm not sure if the shade was darker or lighter. But I'm pretty sure the Belgian made WH's where slightly different then the Indiana built ones,

Charlie.

[Stigian 1,234]

I've just been digging through my photo's and found this..

It's my now sold 74 Raider when I first got it..

Just about all of the paint had faded apart from the back of the engine and starter motor..

It looks quite a dark red to me!!

 

[meadowfield 2,590]

I agree, I think the early ones were dark too, but 40 years of sunshine/rain and being mistreated, the paint fades to the colour we associate with horses!

[Charlie Smith 142]

It looks alot darker then the rest of the faded tractor but to be honest it doesn't look much darker then other tractors. I think it's because the rest is faded it stands out more.. But also. I'm looking at it through a picture so... Can't say accurately...

Charlie.

[meadowfield 2,590]

I've a 72 raider in bits here and some c121 parts that have never had sunlight on them. Will try get a pic later...

Breakfast time! :D

[Stigian 1,234]

I still have some bit's of 71 Raider with the original but very faded paint on.. I need to nip out the she shack at some point this morning and give it a T-cut to see what colour it comes up as..

[Charlie Smith 142]

Aha enjoy your brekkie

Charlie.n

[Stigian 1,234]

This is the part I'm going to polish up later the PTO cone thingy. Even in it's faded state it looks quite dark, almost with a hint of brown about it to take the edge off the red...

 

[Charlie Smith 142]

That pulley not the pto. But the pulley down the bottom is a lot different then mine? :S but yes t cut it and be sure to show us the results.

Charlie.

[Stigian 1,234]

The cutting decks and pulleys were a bit different on the early Raiders, I'm not sure which year they changed them to the more..er... normal style.

 

The polished part photos will be appearing shorty... Well, after I've finished my coffee, done the dishes and popped out to the shack.

[Charlie Smith 142]

Ah okay I see, and okay dokie

Charlie.

[meadowfield 2,590]

The cutting decks and pulleys were a bit different on the early Raiders, I'm not sure which year they changed them to the more..er... normal style.

 

It was around 1970 when the older style decks were started to be phased out, they were usually 36" cut, two blade with a bevel drive. The belt just came from the engine in the same orientation and onto the pulley. The later style is the magical mule method, with two different methods employed here :/

[Charlie Smith 142]

Oh I see,

Thanks

Charlie.

[Stigian 1,234]

Well, I'm confused now.!!!

 

After a bit of T-cut action the colour of the pulley looked to of brightened up..

But after looking at the photos the really polished up bit's look to of darkened!!!

 

These two photo's were taken in the shack using a flash. The bracket on the right is from my 312 with original but rather thin paint..

 

 

 

 

Taken outside with no flash... It all looks darker with the polished bits even darker!!

 

 

 

Me thinks I need to repeat these photo's when there's better light outside..   It's very cold and cloudy with the odd bit of snow blowing in the wind.. Not ideal for these sort of photo's.

[Charlie Smith 142]

Yes agreed the weather isn't ideal for colour matching at this very moment in time. But I second you on that, it's rather confused me.. Magic paint. It's a different colour every day

[Stigian 1,234]

People pay a huge amount of money to have their car painted with the paint that changes colour...

Maybe it would be cheaper to park the car somewhere the light conditions change a lot to get the same "paint effect"

 

I do still have the 71 Raider engine, but someone had repainted it many years ago so I can't check the colour on that..

[Charlie Smith 142]

My raider's paint has all faded.... Hmmm I'm just going to pop and have a look under or around the seat areas. Ill post pics soon.

Charlie.

[Charlie Smith 142]

Back. As you will see from these pictures, the hood and body aren't exactly tip top condition. But I did manage to find parts that where under the seat and had been covered in oil and grass so I wiped it off.. And it seems to be near as damn it original.

[Stigian 1,234]

I love that hood... I'd keep it as it is and give it a wipe over with some oil once in a while to keep the rust at bay..

 

The good paint does look quite dark... I see a few new-ish looking bolts.. Has it been apart before or have you just replaced a few missing bolts?

[Charlie Smith 142]

The engine and a few bits weren't attached when I purchased it, so added a few bolts.. There not new bolts just a few I found laying around.

Charlie.

[Amanda 81]

I would go with the Rustoluem Almond. I just think the Bright white would look odd..

 

  when your done!