jeremi3210 742 #1 Posted January 11, 2013 What kind of glue do you use to replace the friction meterail on a pto clutch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel-N-It 2,971 #2 Posted January 11, 2013 Good question. I'm looking forward to the experts on this jumping in with an answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 347 #3 Posted January 11, 2013 What kind of glue do you use to replace the friction meterail on a pto clutch? Had a similar post few back, found a tuffbond 230, US outlet unfound, another fellow WHRS member uses some two part epoxy, will get back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don1977 604 #4 Posted January 11, 2013 You need something like what they use to bond brake lining to the shoes. I have looked on the internet for answers but haven't found any. I guess they are afraid someone will do a sorry job and then sue them. Some body ask about a product but it's only made in India don't remember the name, couldn't find any place that sales it. It will have to be an epoxy that can still hold when it gets real hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 347 #5 Posted January 11, 2013 What kind of glue do you use to replace the friction meterail on a pto clutch? Had a similar post few back, found a tuffbond 230, US outlet unfound, another fellow WHRS member uses some two part epoxy, will get back Devcon 5 is what he uses, I tried the place in New Jersey that seels a product, but by the Quart, wow how many clutches could we build. An alternative is copy the old style with rivets, which I will do one that way. The countersink I,ve not worked out yet. The other is bonded. Our local clutch and drive shaft people only rivet; another they referred bonds but haven't contacted them yet. On the brake band I would like to rivet top, bond rest. The PTO brake will prob rivet only. Please keep us posted, some say clutches are cheap, but I like a little thicker and "I want it NOW" instead of big $ shippin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don1977 604 #6 Posted January 11, 2013 Another thing that can cause problems. I have a 1977 C-120 bought a PTO replace clutch disk and kept wearing out C-clips. The metal disk was 1/16" thinner the original. On the third set of C-clips a made 1/16" thick washer and drilled the 4 mounting holes and place it between the clutch disk and pulley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarcoleo 119 #7 Posted January 11, 2013 The PTO clutch is used so lightly in any normal situation that heat build-up should not be a problem for a good quality epoxy such as JB. That said, I would rivet the lining just to be sure. McMaster-Carr sells friction material that can be cut to size and countersunk easily. They may even be able to advise or sell an adhesive for the application. I haven't talked to them but it might be a good idea. Tom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,147 #8 Posted January 11, 2013 Anabond 230 is what I found, but it looks tough to get. Here's a thread from a while ago that discusses having them done by professionals: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JC 1965 1,532 #9 Posted January 11, 2013 Will the friction material from McMaster- Carr work for the brake lining also ? If not, does anyone know where I can find some brake lining material. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarcoleo 119 #10 Posted January 11, 2013 http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3511/=kznz5t The medium stuff 1" wide is what I used on the brake band, epoxyed and riveted. Heating in a toaster oven allowed the material to be curved. The friction material for the PTO clutch has not been tried, but shouldn't be too difficult with good common mechanic sense. Tom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 347 #11 Posted January 11, 2013 The PTO clutch is used so lightly in any normal situation that heat build-up should not be a problem for a good quality epoxy such as JB. That said, I would rivet the lining just to be sure. McMaster-Carr sells friction material that can be cut to size and countersunk easily. They may even be able to advise or sell an adhesive for the application. I haven't talked to them but it might be a good idea. Tom They do sell epoxies and I haven't asked for their help on that yet. I got the 1/4" friction material which may be to thick, but it sure looks strong/durable. JB industro weld was recomended by one, not sure who yet. In discussion with others our concerns are more gas and oil related along with heat, even though gas/oil would be infintesimal and heat ? slipping heat is the only concern but readjust should fix that. Apologies Jeremi, don't intend a hijack here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 347 #12 Posted January 11, 2013 Will the friction material from McMaster- Carr work for the brake lining also ? If not, does anyone know where I can find some brake lining material. I puhchased the Mc..- Carr high friction material. It has fiberglass feeling to it with woven in brass, sorta like my original if it really is. It took some time moulding it to shape, but I see here someone mentions T...Oven, shuda tried that. Prob enough left over to do clutch brake too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roscoemi 245 #13 Posted January 12, 2013 I use devcon home 2 part epoxy, from do it best hardware stores. Mix 50/50, and mix it with some authority to get it mixed and set off the chemical reaction. Apply, adhere and add weight. Can use in an hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butch 194 #14 Posted January 12, 2013 I think Duke has relined brakes and PTOs. I would check with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarcoleo 119 #15 Posted January 12, 2013 Well, here's a best guess on a high-temp epoxy that likely can do the job at least as well as any other--a private opinion. Loctite has a fine reputation for their products. http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Hysol-Epoxy-Adhesive-PRICE/dp/B004VODQ0M As suggested above, use rivets (brass) on clutch discs and brake bands and you should be fine. Tom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
