Kevbo 80 #1 Posted December 27, 2012 So if you could put a new exhaust on this C-81, what would you change and how? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glgrumpy 35 #2 Posted December 27, 2012 Loosen up some of pipe fittings to retighten OR buy new and have point UP! add a pipe or small tractor muffler for Stack! Add flapper! Or, if NOT, loose the same fittings or buy new and tighten to point down and at slight front angle, but closer to engine and add same or new muffer down lower. Yours looks like someone just added a length at top to move out from hood. Stock is kinda partly under hood, but pointing down (forward) at angle. DON'T try to overtighten these old fittings, you may break he cylinder casting. Hold the part comeing just outside of engine port with one pipe wrench and loosen the coupler and rest with another pipe. Use new parts to best select the angle and keep it tight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken B 3,164 #3 Posted December 27, 2012 It looks like a nice tractor, I'd ditch what you have and try too find a nice factory muffler for it. I do like custom exhaust pipes but I think the factory setup would look best on yours. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Kuhn 1,554 #4 Posted December 27, 2012 I would put a cub muffler on it from tsc. They aren't too loud and I like the look of them ~Jake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #5 Posted December 27, 2012 Ray's Mower Shop in Boyertown, PA has newer B-80 mufflers on eBay. I believe the biggest difference is the lack of the support tab mount. Search for item # 230895768251 if you're interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,967 #6 Posted December 27, 2012 Anything but one of those "pepper shaker" mufflers. I can't stand the ringy pingy loud noise they make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 617 #7 Posted December 27, 2012 I prefer the factory look on mine. I also like the horizontal side mount mufflers below the hood line like the ones on the later 400/500 series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOWTIE 226 #8 Posted December 28, 2012 THIS IS WHAT I HAVE ON MY 75 B80 IT IS SIMPLE AND DOES NOT BURN THE PAINT. THIS MUFFLER IS GOOD FOR 8 HP OR LESS. BOWTIE IN OHIO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,029 #9 Posted December 28, 2012 I like how quite the factory mufflers are, and don't look bad, but stacks if done right are nice. I might have a factory muffler send me a PM if you want to go that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken B 3,164 #10 Posted December 28, 2012 Here is another idea. This is the muffler setup I put on a Charger 12 I restored a few yrs. ago. I never smelled when I got off this tractor. The muffler was off a Cub Cadet 122. I agree with Kelly, a stack setup can look good if done right, most times they aren't though. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 617 #11 Posted December 28, 2012 The horizontal muffler gives the tractor a nice clean look where you can see the hood and decals without interruptions. Nice hub caps too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevbo 80 #12 Posted December 28, 2012 Nice! Great ideas guys! The pics are very helpful! I'm still torn between factory stock or stack...hmmm...what other pipes are needed besides the muffler for factory stock? Sizes? And if I would do a stack...where can I get one and how exactly wouldn't arrange the pipe fitting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Kuhn 1,554 #13 Posted December 28, 2012 if you want some pics of the stack mount on my b80 I can get you some tomorrow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,029 #14 Posted December 28, 2012 Stock you only need a pipe nipple sticking out of the block to put the muffler on, a stack, it might be best to remove the stuff you hsve and vist a hardware store and buy some new pipe fittings to build a stack, TSC carries the muffler and the fittings but they are not the cheapest for the fittings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevbo 80 #15 Posted December 28, 2012 Thanks! Hey Jake I'd be interested in those pics =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckshot 1 15 #16 Posted December 28, 2012 :) I prefer the factory look. I am not much into all those pipe fittings hanging on an engine. If going the stack route, I would ad a brace to keep from breaking out the exhaust port. Just my 2 cents. :flags-usa: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunahead72 2,400 #17 Posted December 28, 2012 Here's some other ideas for you, Kevin: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialwheelhorse 174 #18 Posted December 28, 2012 And forevermore stay away from those 90 degree pipe fittings. Use a nice long sweep fitting if you have too. Each tight 90 degree fitting robs a certain percentage of engine power. It seems if I remember right about 5%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 993 #19 Posted December 29, 2012 i like the looks and sound of a stack,but not if you have trees to work around,i had one and tore it off on a tree branch,broke the elbow luckly,could have broken the block and i had a very solid brace on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artfull dodger 394 #20 Posted January 3, 2013 I second staying with the factory set up. Stacks are nice, but love to find tree branches, easy burn hazzard if you have little ones around. Heck I have almost grabbed my stack when I stumbled getting of a tractor one time, thankfully I didnt as it was red hot from plowing a field during a plow day event. A good solid factory muffler is best. The little "pepper pot" are good for 8hp and under, but above that they sound tinny and loud. I like the mufflers used on the later 300 series like my 310-8 I used to have. Lays horizontal with a nice forward facing turn out. Should work on most Kohlers with very little adaptation. Keep an eye on ebay for good deal on muffs. Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse_of_course 99 #21 Posted January 6, 2013 So any comments specifically about mufflers on Diesels? I know Diesel engines make more noise, but suspect the exhaust is not any louder. Stacks are always tempting, and would be consistent with the "industrial" diesel concept, but I am not sure. I have not seen the deisel up close yet, but one thing I do know is I'll need muffler for it. Thanks :thumbs2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
47JDG 65 #22 Posted January 7, 2013 If you do a stack or something substantial be sure to add support so that exhaust assembly is supported. It puts an awful lot of stress on that exhaust port otherwise. There is a guy on youtube who has some pretty cool Allis Chalmer / Simplicity garden tractors that he has customized himself. Not a Wheel Horse but all the same rules apply..Check him out here...good info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cvans 1,009 #23 Posted January 10, 2013 So any comments specifically about mufflers on Diesels On my single cylinder Lister diesels I run a vertical strait pipe. On the multi-cylinders I either fabricate my own mufflers or use the ones that came with the engines. The ones that are fabricated I use auger tubing for the shell. I like the sound the thumpers make when working in the garden. These lower RPM diesel singles don't bark and each power pulse is more like a thump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #24 Posted January 10, 2013 My grandsons prefer the vertical stack, like I had on my Mack. My '68 Raider 12 has a SS vertical stack. No flapper, just straight up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse_of_course 99 #25 Posted January 13, 2013 My grandsons prefer the vertical stack, like I had on my Mack. My '68 Raider 12 has a SS vertical stack. No flapper, just straight up. Awwwww, no flapper no fun! I love the Simpsons episode where Janitor Willy's tractor talks to Bart. :* :thumbs2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites