jeremi3210 705 #1 Posted November 24, 2012 So i was wondering if it is possible to convert a starter generator motor over to a starter motor with a stator for a charging system? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #2 Posted November 24, 2012 Absolutely. Everything will need changed from the bearing plate out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremi3210 705 #3 Posted November 24, 2012 Ok thats what i thought. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #4 Posted November 24, 2012 I should have said "from the block out" - meaning bearing plate, flywheel, blower housing, etc. :handgestures-thumbup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremi3210 705 #5 Posted November 24, 2012 I kinda figured the bearing plate would have to be changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldredrider 2,548 #6 Posted November 24, 2012 Doesn't the crank have to be changed too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #7 Posted November 24, 2012 No. Edit: Relevant or not, I just remembered this handy piece of information......... Not all 141/161/181 blocks had starter mounting holes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midnight rambler 36 #8 Posted November 24, 2012 wouldnt it be easier to find a tractor and convert it with the engine swap? other than swaping a bearing plate that may have had a different wear tollerance on it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #9 Posted November 24, 2012 wouldnt it be easier to find a tractor and convert it with the engine swap? other than swaping a bearing plate that may have had a different wear tollerance on it? The current crankshaft bearing can be used with the newer bearing plate, and crankshaft end play is set the same regardless of what style of bearing plate is used. In most cases, the engine doesn't even have to come off of the tractor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremi3210 705 #10 Posted November 24, 2012 How do you measure the crankshaft end play with the oil pan on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midnight rambler 36 #11 Posted November 24, 2012 cool good to know the o.d. on the bearings are the same, i was wondering on the starter mounting holes as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midnight rambler 36 #12 Posted November 24, 2012 i have both engines on tractors and i like the quietness of the generator vs the typical noisey kohler starter, turns so quiet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #13 Posted November 24, 2012 How do you measure the crankshaft end play with the oil pan on? Use a dial indicator on the PTO end of the crankshaft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sorekiwi 761 #14 Posted November 24, 2012 You can even do it without draining the oil! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Callen 64 #15 Posted November 25, 2012 My K241AS, from my 1045, doesn't have the offset in the upper front of the block, will a starter motor still bolt on correctly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #16 Posted November 25, 2012 You could either use an early high-mount Bosch starter (wound fields / aluminum mounting bracket / pretty hard to find these days) or you could run a low-mount starter. I'm pretty sure a gear-drive starter on a big block in a short frame tractor won't leave much room for a battery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Callen 64 #17 Posted November 25, 2012 Thanks TT, wasn't sure if some of the 301s would have the offset missing,too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #18 Posted November 25, 2012 I can't honestly say if it is there on the first 301's. The oldest one I have here right now is 1968 and it already has a gear-drive starter. :thumbs2: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
