Tankman 3,518 #1 Posted November 10, 2012 Purchased, cheap, another Stallion. Came with two decks, one needs a bit of TIG repair. Needed a winter barn project anyway. Runs fine although hasn't been run in over a year. Was stored under a shed roof. New gas, a vacuum job, a hose down. Grease, replace lost bolts, and more to follow. The plastic column under the steering wheel, broken. New available, on my list already. Looking at the parts diagrams, doesn't show much. I'm guessing two screws hold the tube from behind the battery? The ID tag can't be read, worn. The ID tag is front of the seat on the fender assembly not on the ass'y, left hand down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,741 #2 Posted November 10, 2012 Looks like a good tractor! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #3 Posted November 10, 2012 I "needed" the Horse for the well groomed herd. This Horse'll look fine in a month or two. Image posted was after a quick vac, hose rinse and blow dry before backin' into the bank barn. 2nd owner, didn't service too well. His loss, my gain. Does run, mower deck works and was rebuilt (or so I'm told). 16 hp Kohler leads me to believe 416-8 1985-1988 sometime. Looks like the '89 had a different engine(?). I'll have to look closer at the Kohler for P/N and serial number. Might be wrong (advice needed) but, looks as if mechanically there isn't a difference for the four years; '85-'88. A few items stand out, no gas cylinder for the seat unlike my '88 414-8. I thought the 416's had tail lamps in place of the reflectors(?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Kuhn 1,554 #4 Posted November 10, 2012 nice purchase! :handgestures-thumbup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,125 #5 Posted November 11, 2012 Nice one. I like the looks of those high backed seats. :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #6 Posted November 11, 2012 1985 & 86 had K-341 engines ~ 1987/88 had M16 Magnum engines. P-216 Onan twins were introduced in 1989. From what I can see, it looks like a K series. Providing it's original, you should be able to tell the model year of the tractor by the spec number on the engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel-N-It 2,968 #7 Posted November 11, 2012 I like it Tankman. I see you spent your day wisely. I almost bought one like it back in february but wanted a twin cylinder instead. I did buy one of those. Next time one of those K or Magnum 16's cross my path I am going to jump on it. How many hours are showing on the meter ? I want to see an "AFTER" pic when you are finished! Check out my thread of what followed me home today. I was doing the same thing but bringing home a 312-8 instead. Van Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #8 Posted November 11, 2012 1985 & 86 had K-341 engines ~ 1987/88 had M16 Magnum engines. P-216 Onan twins were introduced in 1989. From what I can see, it looks like a K series. Providing it's original, you should be able to tell the model year of the tractor by the spec number on the engine. Early, haven't been in the barn yet but, judging from appearance definately a K series engine. My 414-8 has the Kohler Magnum engine. 40 years ago was a member of the Rough 'n Tumble in Kinzers, PA. Loved my '32 Farmall, even the crank start! Thanks TT. Van, hope all's well in North Carolina! Lived at Camp Lejeune for four years when not out on the USS Guam (helicopter carrier). Thanks for the input guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #9 Posted November 11, 2012 1985 & 86 had K-341 engines ~ 1987/88 had M16 Magnum engines. P-216 Onan twins were introduced in 1989. From what I can see, it looks like a K series. Providing it's original, you should be able to tell the model year of the tractor by the spec number on the engine. Model K341S - Spec. No. 71371 - Ser. No. 14199305. So far, so good. Appears the same yada, yada, yada as the K-Series 12 hp's I have on my Raider 12 and '73 "No Name." I couldn't determine, don't know where to look, the date of manufacture. I'll bet you are correct, '85-'86. It's only 0600 hours, plenty of time to play after an early trip to the auto parts store. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel-N-It 2,968 #10 Posted November 11, 2012 Hey, only 600 hours??? Thats great!!! No rebuild needed with that one. That will save you some big money. You are really going to love the torque of the K-341. They do shake a bit more than the K-321, but it sure will power you through some thick tall grass next Spring and Summer. And thank you, yes all is well here in NC. We might see 70degrees here today and tomorrow. I know you have seen it alot hotter than that though when you were living in Jacksonville NC. I am there every Summer, and I swear every Summer there is hotter than the one before! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,131 #11 Posted November 11, 2012 Model K341S - Spec. No. 71371 - Ser. No. 14199305 The engine serial number denotes 1984 and that particular spec number was used on the 1985 416-8 ~ which would be model number 31-16K801 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #12 Posted November 11, 2012 Model K341S - Spec. No. 71371 - Ser. No. 14199305 The engine serial number denotes 1984 and that particular spec number was used on the 1985 416-8 ~ which would be model number 31-16K801 Thanks Terry! That was my guess. Other than outdoor storage the past couple of years, owner says engine was serviced regularly. Other than a jump start, my spare battery is shot. Running great, at the stand still. I topped off the oil but, will change that along with the rear gear lube. So far, so good. 40 years ago, was introduced to WH. Been "dopey" since. However, I only have four so a minor "infection." Hey, only 600 hours??? Thats great!!! Van, that would be military time, 0600 hours in the A of M. Once a Jarhead, always a Jarhead! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #13 Posted November 13, 2012 The plastic column under the steering wheel, broken. New available, on my list already. Looking at the parts diagrams, doesn't show much. I'm guessing two screws hold the tube from behind the battery? Nice looking machine! I don't think this was answered for you. The plastic tube is actually not "held on" by anything but the down pressure of the steering wheel which has a spring washer under it and the steering shaft coming up from below the tractor. You'll have to take the steering wheel off to install the new plastic tube. While it's off, it might be a good idea to check the condition of the bushing that supports the shaft where it passes through the dash tower. It's cheap insurance to tighten up the steering column. The steering shaft has a locking collar underneath the dash. As I recall, you have to push down on the steering wheel center while adjusting the locking collar upward and tightening it. Others - am I correct? Duff :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #14 Posted November 13, 2012 Thanks Duff. That's the way it looks to me, following your explanation. I'll have to try delicately removing the 1/4" split roll pin to pull the steering wheel off. Is the gnat still the NH state bird? Visit friends in Brookline on occasion. They always say something like, "Quick take a shower, you just drove through Mass." Ain't that the truth! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #15 Posted November 13, 2012 Thanks Duff. That's the way it looks to me, following your explanation. I'll have to try delicately removing the 1/4" split roll pin to pull the steering wheel off. Is the gnat still the NH state bird? Visit friends in Brookline on occasion. They always say something like, "Quick take a shower, you just drove through Mass." Ain't that the truth! :laughing-lettersrofl: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel-N-It 2,968 #16 Posted November 13, 2012 I hope that steering wheel comes off easy for you Tankman. One of the tools on my list is a steering wheel puller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #17 Posted November 13, 2012 I hope that steering wheel comes off easy for you Tankman. One of the tools on my list is a steering wheel puller. I do have the puller but, removing the 1/4" x 2" split roll pin could be ................... I might try an extractor after a day of oil soaking. Fingers crossed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites